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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That is why I specifically stated “police
department”, Tom. They deal with situations more often and more readily than a
city council.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here is a quote that I will make and I am
extremely certain will be echoed on local blogs extensively and repeatedly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>City councils make mistakes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There. I said it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>Seeya round town, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
<br>
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>
<br>
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> TIM RIGSBY
[mailto:tim.rigsby@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:49
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tom Hansen; 'Kai Eiselein';
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] 11 year
girl</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Not necessarily the City Police Department, but I believe that
it was the City Council of the town of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Greenleaf</st1:place></st1:City>,
ID that made headlines this spring for passing a ordinance requesting that
every head of household purchase and retain firearms for the protection of the
community. The ordinance said something like buy guns, get trained on how
to use them, and then use them if needed to protect your family and your
town. <br>
<br>
I could be wrong though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
" 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of
the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody
who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and
sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the
World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property
-- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons -- or locked up in
the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts
wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is
President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had
voted." - Hunter S. Thompson<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: thansen@moscow.com<br>
To: fotopro63@hotmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:30:40 -0700<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year girl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=ecmsonormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A couple questions, Kai (although they
have been asked and not answered):</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=ecmsonormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=ecmsonormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Could you explain to us how introducing
more firearms into the public venue is going to reduce the number of violent
crimes?</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=ecmsonormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can you provide us evidence that ANY
city’s police department encourages its citizenry to purchase and possess
firearms?</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=ecmsonormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Seeya round town, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
<br>
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>
<br>
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=ecmsonormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kai Eiselein<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 25, 2007
9:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] 11 year
girl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=ecmsonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Saundra,<br>
<br>
Huh? Where did I "defend" an obvious hoax?<br>
<br>
I merely pointed out that real, live, verifiable cases of people defending
themselves with a gun actually DO occur.<br>
On a fairly regular basis even.<br>
It was YOU who decided to use the typical radical left wing tactic of using a
child's death to try to make a point. (Just like the typical radical right wing
tactic of saying immigrants are ruining the country)I used the fact that a very
high number of children die from drowning, which, like firearm deaths, are completely
preventable.<br>
Unfortunately, the CDC doesn't give a complete age breakdown on firearm deaths.
(People 20 and under are considered "children") I used to have a
better age breakdown, which showed more young kids died of drowning in the home
than did by firearm. If I run across it, I'll post it.<br>
<br>
You, Saundra are the one who used the terms "gun nuts" and
"anti-immigration nuts".<br>
<br>
Sorry, I'm not the nut here, I advocate the legal and responsible possession
and use of firearms. Including the right to defend oneself from intruders. <br>
I also advocate legal, responsible and steady immigration into this country,
NOT the sieve we've got now.<br>
<br>
My case isn't weak, it is lawful. The rightful and just application of law
should ALWAYS trump emotion and party dogma.<br>
<br>
<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>"Only when one
is free of party thought is one free to think independently."</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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