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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Donovan...your arguments have no merit.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Betsy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] campaign
contributions</DIV>
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<DIV>Keely,</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course you wouldn't. And certainly explains why you squandered an
opportunity to do something positive with your previous position. The MSD
administration has failed the students. Many children succeed despite that
failure to be given what they deserve by MSD. And your fail to recognize that,
in part, is why MSD is being sued, why it is having to shut down programs and
not rehire teachers this year, and why it just makes excuses and blames others
for why they cannot fix problems with the system. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Winners and successful administrations don't give laundry lists of why
they are unsuccessful and cannot provide what others are under the same
conditions. They make laundry lists of how to overcome those problems and then
implement them. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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Donovan, I have never, nor would I, begin or end an argument about MSD with
the phrase "they failed."<BR><BR>They didn't. They
don't.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">"And these women
that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Are immune to
your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going
through"</SPAN><BR>(With apologies to David Bowie)<BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:40:03 -0700<BR>From:
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] campaign
contributions<BR>To: kjajmix1@msn.com; vision2020@moscow.com<BR><BR>
<DIV>Keely's argument is that they failed because it was the fault of the
state and federal government. Of course why they failed and other school
administrations under the same federal and state government restrictions
have not is yet to be explained?</DIV>
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<DIV>Boise High School is ranked in the top 100 high schools in the
nation. How are they able to provide a lower tax rate, meet the same
federal and state regulations and succeed under the dictatorially
anti-education government? Why is Boise, and other Idaho schools
so successful and Moscow failing to provide?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don't think anyone is asking for a miracle, they are just asking
for accountability and honesty. Something I think this administration is
seriously lacking. Moscow is the "Berkley of Idaho." It is suppose
to be the brain trust of the state. It has more Mom's with PhDs
per capita than any other city in the county. Yet it cannot beat
Boise in primary and secondary education? We know that Moscow
has every advantage possible, more money per pupil, college educated
parents, and a great environment. Yet it is far out paced by
Boise. Why is this?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Keely says it is because of a factor, state and federal regulations,
that every other school has to implement as well. I say it is because of
the MSD Administration that is looking out for some teachers, politicians,
and themselves over the welfare of the students. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Of
course, if MSD had "worked things out" with Gerry Weitz, and presumably,
then, with every other stakeholder who has had suggestions or concerns
about the educational programming offered by the District, it would have
to then reconcile those ideas, meritorious though they may be, with
those pesky State and Federal programming and curriculum requirements,
which, while often difficult to enact, have that MANDATE thing attached
to them.<BR><BR>Seeing that PUBLIC EDUCATION is funded by taxpayers and
regulated by the State and, more than it should be, the Federal
Government, it would seem that attempts to craft a program offering a
little of this and a little of that and quite a bit more of the other is
appropriate for private schools, who only answer to paying
parents. Public schools, however, are in the unenviable position
of having to answer to the State and the Feds as well as the
taxpayers. They're bound by law, by strict state and Federal
guidelines, by funding (both by legislative fiat and by appeals to
voters) and by facilities. <BR><BR>Believe it or not, Donovan,
this is not a case of Candis Donicht and a maverick school board
deliberately deciding to annoy Gerry Weitz, and neither is it a result
of a concentrated effort to ignore certain students. On the other
hand, if you're willing to believe that the current and former board
members and current administration are all demons incarnate, you won't
be persuaded by reality -- the same reality the rest of the world has to
work with.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">"And these women that you spit on as they try
to change their worlds/</SPAN><BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Are immune to your consultations . . .
they're quite aware of what they're going through"</SPAN><BR>(With
apologies to David Bowie)<BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:09:57 -0700<BR>From:
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV>Joe Campbell wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>"What exactly, Donovan, did you think that the MSD should have
worked<BR>out with Weitz? And for what reason?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think they should have worked out better funding of
vocational education and to reduce discrimination against
non-college bound students. And for the reason of being fair
and ensuring that public education provides equal benefit to all
students as well as providing the students with some job related
skills so they can be gainfully employed when they graduate high
school.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joe also writes:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"I'll save you the trouble and state your reply: "Since you are
a teacher, Joe, your opinion is prejudiced and doesn't count." Thank
God the issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to life or
else we'd all be unable to comment! "</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are incorrect here on three accounts. First, we all breath,
so breathing would be an equal bias on all people, thus not making
it a bias. Second, you would be the only person in
education to state that being a teacher has not
impacted their way of thinking. Third, and final, since you are
philosophy teacher, you're biased in thinking that everyone can be a
philosophy teacher rather than understanding standing some people
want to be welders, carpenters, constructionists, nurses, drafters,
operators, truckers, and machinists,--occupations that actually
produce public wealth, not drain from it. </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Joe Campbell
<joekc@adelphia.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Donovan
writes: "It is unfortunate that MSD was unwilling to work with Dr.
Weitz before he had to take them to court. I would image that such
a reason has less to do with integrity and more to do with the
size of the gap differences in opinion."<BR><BR>What exactly,
Donovan, did you think that the MSD should have worked out with
Weitz? And for what reason?<BR><BR>The merit of Weitz’s lawsuit
has not yet been decided. Even the decision by the Deputy Attorney
General, which Weitz and others keep circulating, states that the
law is ambiguous and subject to two distinct interpretations, one
of which is consistent with the MSD's actions. There is absolutely
no reason for the MSD to work out a deal with Weitz, either before
the election, or at the current moment. To do so would have been,
or would be, irresponsible. The problem lies with the law, not
with the MSD -- and this is true even if Weitz wins since that
decision would set the legal precedent.<BR><BR>I'll save you the
trouble and state your reply: "Since you are a teacher, Joe, your
opinion is prejudiced and doesn't count." <BR><BR>Thank God the
issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to life or else
we'd all be unable to comment! <BR><BR>--<BR>Joe
Campbell<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Date: Mon,
16 Jul 2007 22:28:47 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Donovan Arnold
<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions<BR>To:
Shirley Ringo , vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Message-ID:
<981907.401.qm@web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Shirley,<BR><BR>You are
without a doubt the best current legislature from Latah, and
certainly have the most integrity of the three. But I am unable to
find any vote you cast since 1999 which was in opposition to the
MSD or IEA agenda or stated positions. If such disagreements exist
between you and MSD and the IEA as you stated, please be so kind
as to point out a few for us.<BR><BR>I am glad you are able to
work out differences with the MSD before taking them to court. It
is unfortunate that MSD was unwilling to work with Dr. Weitz
before he had to take them to court. I would image that such a
reason has less to do with integrity and more to do with the size
of the gap differences in opinion. <BR><BR>Again, I would like to
hear to what differences between the MSD and yourself that you
have worked out on behave of the people you represent.
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