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<P><STRONG>Matt. . . . Keep working out. . . punch the hell out of that bag and don't forget the miles of leg work running every day. Daily exercise was part of my step dad's routine even in the nursing home. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>And while you're at it. . . make sure your girls have the very same opportunities as your sons. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Geffner (proud to be Al Geffner's daughter)</STRONG></P>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>"Matt Decker" <mattd2107@hotmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>gussie443@hotmail.com, jampot@adelphia.net, thansen@moscow.com, privatejf32@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!</I><BR>Date: <I>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:06:01 -0700</I><BR>>Ellen,<BR>><BR>>I understand you feelings about boxing. How it seems barbaric and <BR>>serves no purpose to society.<BR>><BR>>Believe me though, boxing does a lot for many people, young and old. <BR>>With a nation of obesity, what better than a cardio session between <BR>>you and a partner or punching bag. These boxers are in the best <BR>>shape known to mankind. Boxing installs goals, grit, drive, and <BR>>determination. All of which can be very useful in the real world. <BR>>Many of the same traits included in
other sports such as football, <BR>>baseball, golf and such.<BR>><BR>>Not only that, but I would rather be confident that my boys could <BR>>defend themselves in those dreaded moments of self defense.<BR>><BR>>Boxing is a useful sport. A sport that is person to person. But in <BR>>the end both parties shake hands and walk away. Taking those traits <BR>>with them.<BR>><BR>>Take care<BR>>Matt<BR>><BR>><BR>>>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443@hotmail.com><BR>>>To: jampot@adelphia.net, thansen@moscow.com, <BR>>>privatejf32@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<BR>>>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:55:33 -0700<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Gary. . . . you may call me Ellen. Or, if you wish to be formal,
<BR>>>it's Mrs. Roskovich.<BR>>><BR>>>Boxing IS dangerous. . . and makes about as much sense as a cock <BR>>>fight. It's not for kids. As hard as I try, I cannot think of one <BR>>>positive life lesson a young person would learn from the <BR>>>experience.<BR>>><BR>>>Ellen A. Roskovich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>>>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>,"'Ellen Roskovich'" <BR>>><gussie443@hotmail.com>,<privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<BR>>>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:40:27 -0700<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>According to Ms.
Roscovich and Ms. Mix it's all about the "danger" <BR>>>and the "physical aggression." In what way do the pieces of paper <BR>>>that you refer to make the event different, more feminine? Does <BR>>>the notion of men getting together to have a bit of fun with other <BR>>>men leave you feeling uncomfortable? Or is it really more about the <BR>>>who then anything having to do with the what?<BR>>><BR>>>It is my understanding that the event happened under the tutelage <BR>>>of a retired professional boxer, that ABA approved headgear was <BR>>>worn by all participants, that absolutely no one was seriously <BR>>>injured (one punch was expertly blocked by the nose of one of the <BR>>>warriors but he lived to tell the tale and more importantly learned <BR>>>a valuable lesson in keeping his gloves up and
his chin down.) and <BR>>>that a good time was had by all. With all this in mind, what place <BR>>>is it of yours to piss on someone else's parade?<BR>>><BR>>>g<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>---- Original Message -----<BR>>>From: Tom Hansen<BR>>>To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Ellen Roskovich' ; privatejf32@hotmail.com ; <BR>>>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:11 PM<BR>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>g stated:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>“The combative sports (boxing, judo, karate, wrestling, etc.) <BR>>>result in far fewer injury's than football, rock climbing, skate <BR>>>boarding, mountain biking and skiing at the amateur level. Even <BR>>>cheer leading results in more emergency room visits! Would you
have <BR>>>every "sport" that is potentially dangerous be eliminated from the <BR>>>extracurricular activities list?”<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>This may very well be true, g, among professionals and/or in a <BR>>>venue specifically designed for that sport with the requisite <BR>>>safety measures established and maintained, not at a school lacking <BR>>>the appropriate facilities and void of the aforementioned safety <BR>>>measures.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>In each of the “organized” activities you mention (boxing, judo, <BR>>>karate, wrestling, football, rock climbing, skate boarding, <BR>>>mountain biking, skiing, etc.), there are certain requirements <BR>>>(health, insurance, waivers, etc. etc.) that MUST be accomplished <BR>>>prior to any competitor engaging in their
sport. Based on a Viz <BR>>>discussion, concerning the Logos School “smokers” (as they are <BR>>>called) a while back, it was painfully evident that NONE of these <BR>>>requirements was even considered, much less accomplished.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>>><BR>>>Tom Hansen<BR>>>Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The <BR>>>college students are not very active in local elections (thank <BR>>>goodness!)."<BR>>><BR>>>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<BR>>><BR>>> Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all <BR>>>in one
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