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Doug Wilson's "parenting" columns in Credenda/Agenda tell us a lot about his view of "Godly" crying and wimpy, sissyfied, manipulative crying, especially by boys. Which is good. Lord knows the world has suffered greatly because real men have allowed themselves to freely express genuine feelings of sentiment and empathy, sadness and grief, and haven't thus resorted to aggression and antagonism or anything destructive like that. <br><br>The men in my life have never beat anyone up, and anyone who ever tried to coax my sons into physical aggression as children might find themselves the recipient of a verbal smackdown that would rival a roundhouse punch to the kidneys. That "Christian" men would do so is nauseating and, in a word, sinful. A judgment, yes -- and one that I would stand behind in the ring or out.<br><br>keely <br><br><span style="font-style: italic;">"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"</span><br>(With apologies to David Bowie)<br><br><br>> From: privatejf32@hotmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:27:31 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<br>> <br>> <br>> Well, ok - they were sanctioned by Dougie-Boy and the elders. But I also <br>> know of several children who were involved with that so-called boxing club <br>> and they had one wish - to find the exit and quickly be able to use it <br>> before some idiot threw them back into the ring telling them "Quit crying. <br>> It'll make a "man" out of you."<br>> <br>> This was one of the most disgusting things I had ever seen - children as <br>> young as 4 and 5 years old being allowed/encouraged to beat the living <br>> day-lights out of each other and to ignore the injuries that <br>> resulted...because "real men don't cry."<br>> <br>> As then, I fail to see how that is God-oriented and/or teaching of His Word.<br>> <br>> <br>> J :]<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> >From: heirdoug@netscape.net<br>> >To: idahotom@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<br>> >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:31:42 -0400<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Tom-Tom,<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Knock your self out. Sargent!<br>> ><br>> >"unsanctioned boxing matches" ROTFL<br>> ><br>> >That just made my day!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Doug!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >-----Original Message-----<br>> ><br>> >From: Tom Hansen <idahotom@hotmail.com><br>> ><br>> >To: heirdoug@netscape.net; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> ><br>> >Sent: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 7:17 am<br>> ><br>> >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Not to mention garage casinos that sold beer to minors right here in<br>> >Moscow, No-Clue.<br>> ><br>> >And unsanctioned boxing matches between students at Logos School.<br>> ><br>> >And so, so much more.<br>> ><br>> >Should I go on, No-Clue? I am certain I can find some rather<br>> >interesting items in my archives.<br>> ><br>> >Tom Hansen<br>> ><br>> >Moscow, Idaho<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> ><br>> > > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:37:42 -0400<br>> ><br>> > > From: heirdoug@netscape.net<br>> ><br>> > > Subject: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > > TEACHING ISN'T LIMITED TO CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION. THE BEST TEACHERS IN<br>> ><br>> > > THE WORLD TEACH BY EXAMPLE.<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>> >=<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >________________________________________________________________________<br>> >Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and<br>> >industry-leading spam and email virus protection.<br>> ><br>> >=======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >=======================================================<br>> <br>> _________________________________________________________________<br>> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! <br>> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2<br>> <br><br /><hr />Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place! <a href='http://maps.live.com/?wip=69&FORM=MGAC01' target='_new'>Find it!</a></body>
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