Joe,<br>I suppose then, one has to parse the definition of member.&nbsp; <br>(For the record, I prefer the first definition.) <img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif"><br><br>Per wikipedia:<br><div>A <b>member</b> is a person who belongs to a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groups_of_people" title="Groups of people">group of people</a>.</div> <div><b>Member</b> may also refer to:</div> <ul><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limb" title="Limb">Limb</a>, an appendage of the human or animal body</li><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_%28mathematics%29" title="Element (mathematics)">Element</a>, an object that belongs to a mathematical set</li><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_jury" title="Military jury">Military jury</a>, referred to as Members in military jargon.</li><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis" title="Penis">Penis</a> (slang)</li><li><a
 href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_%28computing%29" title="User (computing)">Users</a> who have signed up for a particular <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet" title="Internet">internet</a> service (as distinguished from non-members of that service).</li><li><b><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_%28computer_science%29" title="Field (computer science)">attributes</a></b> and <b><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_%28computer_science%29" title="Method (computer science)">methods</a></b> within <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_%28computer_science%29" title="Class (computer science)">classes</a> in the context of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming" title="Object-oriented programming">object-oriented programming</a></li></ul><br><br><b><i>Joe Campbell &lt;joekc@adelphia.net&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
 Apparently replacing 'councilperson' "with something less redundant" is harder than any of us thought. Are there any "City Council Members" who are not members? If so, that's the job I want!<br><br>--<br>Joe Campbell<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:52:59 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><br>Subject: [Vision2020] Councilperson<br><br>"Councilperson" I am curious why someone would tac "person" on the end of a title. Are there members of the council that are not persons? Why not "City Council Member"?  We don't say fireperson or policeperson. Placing person on the end of a title just sounds like an ugly attack on the English language.<br>   <br>  Best,<br>   <br>  Donovan<br><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.   <br>               http://www.fsr.net                      
 <br>          mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>=======================================================<br></donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></blockquote><br><BR><BR>Tom &amp; Liz Ivie<p>&#32;

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