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Ok, a couple of things. First, I haven't read any of the documents on
the site. Second, I don't know if you are lumping me in with the
"human induced global warming skeptics", but I would describe myself as
a "global warming will slap your sister, cause your hair to fall out,
and spit in your chicken soup" type of skeptic. I think the alarmist
aspect of this is coloring the debate too much. So, do humans help
induce global warming? Yes. I'm breathing out CO2 as we speak. Are
we dumping an amazing amount of pollution of all types, CO2 included,
into the air? Yes. Should we be writing our wills? No. At least,
not yet.<br>
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As I've said before, you shouldn't be buying a Hummer tomorrow not
because we're all going to fry in the heat, but because they output
pollution into the air that is affecting people's health today, because
the oil is going to run out sooner rather than later and dump the
economy on it's ass, and because we have to prop up unstable
governments like Iraq. Oh, and Canada.<br>
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There appear to be processes in place to scrub the CO2 out of the air
once we stop putting so much of it up there. That will probably follow
the collapse of the free world instead of the invention of a popular
clean energy source, but it will happen. I'm sure that we will add our
considerable ingenuity to this problem and actually make some progress
on it as soon as Washington, DC is under water.<br>
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As for this being a "free market" libertarian nightmare, I can see
that. I think "free market" is analogous to "let me rob you blind" a
lot of the time. I like their stance on personal liberties, but I
think they need to take a few more economics classes. Or just read the
paper or watch advertisements on TV a little more.<br>
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You can't deny that politics is influencing the global warming debate
on all sides. That, in my opinion, is a direct consequence of the
alarmist aspect of the topic. Granted, if it really is as bad as they
say, we need to get started on the solutions now. However, I don't
know that we know that it's all that bad. It's a complicated topic,
with too many variables to model easily. Sure, the glaciers are
melting. How much of that has to do with the fact that we are coming
out of an ice age? How much effect does a few decades of higher CO2
levels have? How much does the extra moisture in the air affect
things? How many processes do we have yet to discover that help or
hinder global warming? It could very well be as bad as they say, but
it's a hard decision to make to radically change our quality of life
when it may not be needed in the end. If it was an asteroid on
collision with the Earth, then you'd know it was a problem that had to
be fixed now.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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Ted Moffett wrote:
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That subject line is a joke, but I'm not laughing.</div>
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<div>I saw a sponsored link to "The Heartland Institute," with a lot
of global warming skeptic claims, on my gmail Google account, so I
investigated. "Sponsored" means they are paying to have the link
featured prominently, of course. It appears they have a mountain of
evidence that the thousands of scientists warning of serious human
induced global warming are off in la, la land! And what was really
amazing was that they are a "free market" libertarian institute! Well,
OK, this is not so amazing. This is just what you would expect. As
Eugene Linden, author of "The Winds of Change," said, "Human caused
global warming is a libertarian nightmare."
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<div>For the human induced global warming skeptics on Vision2020,
surveying this info might be interesting. Maybe they are right?! </div>
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<div>I'm buying a Hummer tomorrow and driving coast to coast as often
as possible for the shear fun and joy of burning fossil fuels!
Yee-Haw! Now where's my own personal Middle East oil well? Let's free
up those markets!
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<div>This website will reveal what biased politically tainted money
corrupted scientific idiots all those scientists warning of human
induced global warming really are:</div>
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<div><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.heartland.org/PolicyBotTopic.cfm?artTopic=704"
target="_blank">http://www.heartland.org/PolicyBotTopic.cfm?artTopic=704</a></div>
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<div>Ted Moffett</div>
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