<html><div style='background-color:'><P><STRONG>ooops! you lose your LIFEJACKET. . . you need your paddle to keep up. But I'm sure you all get the picture : )</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen</STRONG><BR><BR></P>
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From: <I>"Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443@hotmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>godshatter@yahoo.com, vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: church and paintball</I><BR>Date: <I>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:17:04 -0700</I><BR><BR>
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<P><STRONG>Video games? Don't get me started! Fantasy and reality. . . some never get it.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Here's a "team-building exercise" Ellen-style: put your team in a canoe with a paddle and a life jacket. You don't hold your own, you lose your paddle. You still don't pull your weight, the other team members throw you overboard. Wow! Bet we soon have an award winning team!!</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Hey, folks, don't get too uptight. . . it's just "fantasy". . . .</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich </STRONG></P>
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From: <I>Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com></I><BR>To: <I>vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: church and paintball</I><BR>Date: <I>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 09:13:39 -0700</I><BR><BR>In my opinion, as long as you have a good grasp of the line between fantasy and reality it shouldn't be a problem. In that respect, it's like video games. <BR><BR>I've played paintball, and it has more in common with the old games we used to play in the woods as boy scouts than it does with actual military training or conditioning. You know it's not real, which completely changes the dynamic. Nobody is drilling you, telling you how you might just kill somebody if you screw up, nobody is making it plain that other lives may one day depend upon your performance. It's just fun.<BR><BR>A lot of companies use it as a team-building exercise, because
(if you want to win) it forces you to rely upon someone else and to be relied upon to achieve a goal. It also enhances your problem-solving skills. I see no conflict with religious groups doing the same thing, myself.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>Ellen Roskovich wrote:
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<P><STRONG>Dancing and making joyous noise is a far cry from slithering around in the bushes, taking pot shots at your buddies and keeping score on how many kills you have.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Call me a fuddy duddy if you wish. No, I'll even do it for you. . . I'm a fuddy duddy. I do not like organized "games" that condition people to kill off their fellow humans. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>I would cringe at any group organizing this activity for kids and it would have opened the door for "discussion" at our household.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG></P>
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<FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">From: <I>"g. crabtree" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><jampot@adelphia.net></A></I><BR>To: <I><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></A>, "Mark Solomon" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com"><msolomon@moscow.com></A></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] church and paintball</I><BR>Date: <I>Sun, 1 Jul 2007 07:26:41 -0700</I><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"><FONT face=Arial size=2>Absolutely! Any time the Churched strip off their sack cloth and ash and venture forth from their cloisters I worry that they might have something resembling a good time. Next thing you know they'll be dancing and making a joyous noise and goodness knows we can't have any of that.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"><B>From:</B> <A title=msolomon@moscow.com href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com">Mark Solomon</A> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">Does anyone else find this as disturbing as I do? (I'd post a link to the full story, the rest of which is a straight business story about paintball, but the Tribune is a subscriber only website.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"><FONT color=#000000><B>Aiming for fun, with a license to thrill</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"><FONT color=#000000>By Elaine Williams of the Tribune<BR>Sunday, July 1, 2007<BR><BR><BR>Church groups are among the most frequent customers of FTW Paintball, a store that recently opened in Lewiston.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"><FONT color=#000000>The organizers find that playing paintball is a way to create relationships among their members, said Marty Frostad, owner of the business.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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