Jackie, Jackie, Jackie . . .Ok, yes you are absolutely correct:
if a counselor knows of criminal activity, he or she has a legal
obligation to report it. Now the part you didn't get: My point
is, the defense may argue that, from a legal standpoint, not an
emotional / moralistic / Good God that just ain't RIGHT standpoint,
there was no criminal activity, so the counselor had no legal
obligation to report it. In fact, he had a legal obligation to
not say anything! It may not be right, but as a "concerned
citizen" you can certainly work to try to change the law.
Certainly if you stand in someone's yard and look in their window,
that's illegal on a number of levels. But if you stand in your
living room and look into someone else's window, are you breaking the
law? It's a weird, creepy thing to do, but is it illegal??
I don't know. I suspect that is why they are having a status
conference on Monday.<br>
<br>
As far as me - nope, not a counselor, nor a pastor, nor a social
worker, nor a psychologist, nor a lawyer. Just an individual with
an interest in learning how communities work with (or more accurately
do NOT work with) the judicial system, law enforcement, and mental
health/substance abuse treatment centers to successfully re-introduce
felons (not just sex offenders) back into society.<br>
<br>
In most instances, it doesn't work very well at all, in large part
because most communities have people, like yourself and others on this
site for instance, who are not interested in learning anything about
how the "system" works, or is at least set up to work, much less what
you as a "concerned citizen" can do to help it work. No, that
would mean having to get your hands dirty. You have to go to AA
and NA meetings and talk with the social workers and the clients.
You have to visit with inmates in jail. You have to talk with law
enforcement, corrections, prosecutors and defense attorneys. No,
you're much too busy with your own petty grievances about how this
person and that person spoke harshly to you and hurt your
feelings. Too busy planning how you're going to "get back at
them" when, if they haven't forgotten who you are, can't even remember
what set you off to begin with. Nope nope nope - can't take the
time. Can't mingle with "them" - what if it rubs off on me?!?<br>
<br>
So I've spent several years learning "stuff" and a considerable amount
of time trying to impart some information on this site. Yes, it
has centered on one individual in particular, but then it seems as if
it was that individual who was of most public interest. <br>
<br>
If at least ONE person felt they learned something, it was worth it for
me. But as I suspected, a vast majority were too busy running
around trying to find some safe sand into which you could stick your
head; crying and moaning "forget facts, my mind's made up"; tossing out
terms like "liar, cheat, idiot, fool", or playing at silly word games,
attempting to demonstrate to all the depth of your intellect.<br>
<br>
Carry on, oh gatekeepers of society. Howl at all the injustices
around you. Wail about the fact no one does anything and
everybody does nothing. Then move on to the next crisis in your
dreary little life.<br>
<br>
The irony is, part of the answer has been posted probably over 100
times in the last two months. And yet, here we are . . .<br>
<br>
Glenn <br>
<br>
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing:. - Edmund Burke<br>
<br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">J Ford</b> <<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Well, "Glenn", I suspect you are not a true counselor. Certainly, not one<br>trained to work with creeps like Sitler or Jamin. If you were, as such, it<br>would have been your LEGAL obligation to report any suspicion of Sitler's
<br>criminal activity immediately to the authorities. You would, therefore,<br>have to have insider info on his activities...which you clearly do not just<br>from your questions.<br><br>You keep proving, Doug, just how false and just how phony a person you truly
<br>are. You are doing more harm than good in this (and other) case(s) and I<br>would suggest you stop before someone decides your part in all this should<br>be looked at much more closely.<br><br>Ya know, on second thought....just keep talking. I really can't wait to see
<br>that sinking-feeling-look you will be wearing here very shortly.<br><br>J :]<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: "Glenn Schwaller" <<a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</a>><br>>To:
<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ten Sitler Questions<br>>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:00:21 -0700<br>><br>>Well J, not to keep on haranguing you about it, but it would certainly
<br>>pay you to THINK before pummeling your keyboard to death. It seems pretty<br>>obvious to me that since I am not, nor have any control over, the judge,<br>>the<br>>prosecuting attorney, the police, nor the department of probation and
<br>>parole, it's highly unlikely I would have answers to those questions, much<br>>less be in a position to make or enforce any probationary restrictions.<br>><br>>I will have to look at a copy of the VTS contract, but my guess is that the
<br>>defense is going to push for Mr Lombard's letter to be ruled inadmissible<br>>since it violates the patient / counselor privilege. Most of these types<br>>of<br>>contracts forbid breaking confidentiality unless the patient poses a direct
<br>>harm to himself or to others. Since Mr Sitler admits voyeuristic behavior<br>>led up to the offences of which he was convicted, this could be construed<br>>as<br>>a potential harm to others.<br>><br>>If the judge feels otherwise, the letter may be thrown out. If that is the
<br>>case, and the letter was used as probable cause for a search of his<br>>residence, the search, the seizing of his computer and whatever it may<br>>contain in the way of incriminating evidence may be ruled invalid.
<br>><br>>Glenn<br>><br>>On 6/30/07, J Ford <<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>>Since this "guy" has set his-self up as some kind of expert on Sitler,
<br>>>(remember? he says he's been "counseling" Sitler!) how is it he has these<br>>>type of questions, but not the answers?<br>>><br>>><br>>>J :]<br>>><br>>><br>>>
<br>>><br>>><br>>> >From: "Glenn Schwaller" <<a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</a>><br>>> >To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com
</a><br>>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ten Sitler Questions<br>>> >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:33:21 -0700<br>>> ><br>>> >There are additional probation violations that have been filed and may
<br>>>have<br>>> >something to do with the sealed communication. Given that the contents<br>>>of<br>>> >this letter will probably not be released in the near future, at the<br>>>very<br>
>> >least the court should give some kind of explanation as to why this<br>>>letter<br>>> >was sealed.<br>>> ><br>>> >Probation and parole seized a computer during the search of Mr Sitler's
<br>>> >residence, and it's contents are currently being evaluated by the State<br>>> >Forensics Lab in Meridian. Questions 11 adn 12 would be why did Mr<br>>>Sitler<br>>> >have a computer, and did he have access to the internet?
<br>>> ><br>>> >Ownership of, or access to, a computer and / or the internet is decided<br>>>on<br>>> >a<br>>> >case-by-case basis. For some offenders, use of a computer my be<br>
>>permitted<br>>> >only if it is a necessary part of their employment. Other may be<br>>>allowed<br>>>a<br>>> >home computer only, and others may be allowed internet access. In these<br>
>> >instances, most offenders are required to subscribe at their cost to a<br>>> >program called Covenant Eyes (<a href="http://www.covenanteyes.com">www.covenanteyes.com</a>). Their probation<br>>> >officer functions as an "accountability partner" and as such, has
<br>>>complete<br>>> >and real time access to their computer.<br>>> ><br>>> >Was Mr Sitler on line while on probation? Was he required to subscribe<br>>>to<br>>> >a<br>>> >monitoring service? Did he subscribe? Does any of his computer
<br>>>activity<br>>> >relate to additional probation violations? It seems a very real<br>>> >possibility<br>>> >that one or several people dropped the ball on this. Will anyone be<br>>>held
<br>>> >accountable?<br>>> ><br>>> >It's possible that the Status Conference scheduled for Monday may be a<br>>> >phone<br>>> >conference, and not in open court. Has anyone heard differently?
<br>>> ><br>>> >Glenn<br>>> ><br>>> >On 6/29/07, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Here is a letter from one of the persons providing sexual offender
<br>>> >>treatment to Steven Sitler. This letter is found as part of a *Report<br>>>of<br>>> >>Probation Violation* filed in the court by Senior Probation Officer<br>>>Jackye<br>>> >>Squires Leonard.
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Dalton Lombard, D.Min, LCPC<br>>> >><br>>> >>P O Box 1911<br>>> >><br>>> >>Lewiston, Id. 83501
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>June 18, 2007<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Jackie Squires
<br>>> >><br>>> >>Probation and Parole<br>>> >><br>>> >>Moscow Idaho 83843<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>RE. Steven Shier
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Dear Ms. Squires,<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>This note is in response lo our Telephone conversation today. During
<br>>>the<br>>> >>weekly check in time for the offender group I lead for Valley Treatment<br>>> >>Specialties Mr. Sitler reported that he had masturbated on two<br>>>occasions<br>>> >>during the previous week. When asked for more detail about the
<br>>> >>circumstances<br>>> >>and fantasies he experienced during his masturbation he reported that<br>>>he<br>>> >>had<br>>> >>been looking in a neighbor's window with his binoculars. As a result he
<br>>> >>became aroused and later masturbated. He denied viewing anyone at the<br>>> >>residence but acknowledged that he was aroused by looking in the<br>>>window.<br>>> >>He<br>
>> >>stated to the group that voyeurism is one of the behaviors be engaged<br>>>in<br>>> >>prior to and leading up to the offences he was convicted of.<br>>> >><br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >>I consider this to be a very high risk behavior for Mr. Sitler<br>>>considering<br>>> >>he had been out of jail less than a month at the lime he reported the<br>
>> >>behavior. In my mind this behavior constitutes a violation of his<br>>>parole<br>>> >>and<br>>> >>of his treatment contract with Valley Treatment Specialties.<br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Thank you for your consideration in this matter.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>/s/<br>>> >><br>
>> >>Dalton Lombard<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>The contents of this letter and other events raise some questions.
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>First, with respect to the binoculars:<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>1. When did Sitler acquire the binoculars?
<br>>> >><br>>> >>2. Did he previously possess them and someone returned them to him,<br>>>did<br>>> >>he lately acquire them, or did someone lately acquire them for him?<br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Given his history of voyeurism and its leading up pedophilic incidents:<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>3. What was his motivation for either acquiring or keeping the
<br>>> >>binoculars?<br>>> >><br>>> >>4. Shouldn't the possession of binoculars been a no-no in his<br>>>probation<br>>> >>agreement?<br>>> >><br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Second, considering the comment "I consider this to be a very high risk<br>>> >>behavior for Mr. Sitler" from his therapist:
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>5. Why was bail granted at all?<br>>> >><br>>> >>6. Is he not a high risk to reoffend?<br>>> >>
<br>>> >>7. Why hasn't a Motion to Revoke Probation been filed by the<br>>> >>prosecuting attorney so that an evidentiary hearing can be held and a<br>>> >>decision whether to revoke probation or not be made by the court?
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>There is a new letter from Dr. Lombard to Judge Stegner now in the<br>>>file:<br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>8. Why has this letter been sealed?<br>>> >><br>>> >>9. Aren't the citizens whose children who are now at risk with<br>>>Sitler
<br>>> >>out on probation entitled to the information which would allow them to:<br>>> >><br>>> >> a. Evaluate the risk?<br>>> >><br>>>
>> b. Express
their opinions to the prosecutor, media, etc.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Sitler was ordered by the court to vacate his current residence on June
<br>>> >>19, 2007. Today is June 29, 2007. The screen snapshot just below was<br>>> >>taken<br>>> >>at 7:30 pm today (06/29/07).<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>According to the Idaho Central Sexual Offender Website
<br>>> >><a href="http://www.isp.state.id.us/identification/sex_offender/obligations.html">http://www.isp.state.id.us/identification/sex_offender/obligations.html</a><br>>> >>Sitler<br>>> >>is obligated to:
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Within 2 working days of changing the address or location of residence<br>>> >>within the county where the sex offender is registered, the offender
<br>>>must<br>>> >>complete an address change form in person with the sheriff of that<br>>>county<br>>> >>of<br>>> >>the change.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>
>> >><br>>> >>OR<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>Within 5 working days of moving to another state, the registered sex<br>>> >>offender must provide written notice of the move to the central sex
<br>>> >>offender<br>>> >>registry. The person must also register in the other State within the<br>>>time<br>>> >>period required by that State, but not to exceed 10 days.<br>>> >>
<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>10. Has Sitler complied with the above but for administrative<br>>> >>ineptitude his State of Idaho sexual offender profile has not yet been<br>
>> >>updated?<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >>As of now, a status hearing on this matter is scheduled for Monday,<br>>>July<br>>> >>2nd at 2:00 pm. Since schedules can change, those interested should
<br>>>call<br>>> >>the Clerk of the Court's office early Monday to check for any change<br>>> >>(Courthouse: 882-8580).<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>
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