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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well you do have to remember that Jews could be
converted and would still be killed. They were promised their bodies would
remain intact instead of drawn and quartered....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A title=jampot@adelphia.net
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=debismith@moscow.com href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> ; <A
title=carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com">Carl Westberg</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Follow up -
Islam the religion of peace!</DIV>
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<DIV>Sue,</DIV>
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<DIV>I have to agree with Gary as being more historically accurate. The
Spanish Inquisition did torture and kill many. However, the Inquisition did
not blow up woman and children in random bomb attacks on villages. The
Inquisition tortured people in the hopes of converting them to Catholicism and
to control them. These radical fundamentalist Muslims are not interested
in conversion, just annihilation of all people that don't believe as they.
They have an evil and incorrect understanding of the teachings of Mohammad,
the Koran, and Jihad. These confused souls that think they are followers
of Mohammad really do give the majority of good Muslims a bad name. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No, you very specifically said, "At no point in
history did The Church act in such a savage manner." A later apology
doesn't erase the historical act. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SH</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A
title=debismith@moscow.com href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> ; <A
title=carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com">Carl Westberg</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 1:34
PM</DIV>
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Islam the religion of peace!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry Ms. Hovey, I was quite awake
and paying rapt attention. I'm not saying the
inquisition wasn't a horror show but at least roving
bands of blood thirsty Christians didn't hack you down in the middle of
the street, or use children to blow up other children, or lob explosives
into civilian neighborhoods, fly jumbo jets full of innocents into
skyscrapers, the list goes on and on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Church has apologized for the hideous
behavior of the inquisition and the crusades, which occurred during the
eleventh through the thirteenth century. Ca</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>n you point out where the followers of Allah have done the same,
considering that their reign of terror has run from its inception in 622
up through today?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the Sudan 1.3 million dead or in
slavery in a country of 5 million for not the crime of
not being muslim. I could go on like this all afternoon. I
never said Mother Church had no blood on it's hands but "the religion
of peace" is making it look like a rank amateur when it comes to the
senseless slaughter of the innocent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue
Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@adelphia.net
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=debismith@moscow.com href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> ;
<A title=carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com">Carl Westberg</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 9:28
AM</DIV>
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- Islam the religion of peace!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gary...Quoting you, "At no point in history
did The Church act in such a savage manner." Obviously your
history education took a detour around the Spanish Inquisition.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=debismith@moscow.com
href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> ; <A
title=carlwestberg846@hotmail.com
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com">Carl Westberg</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 7:29
AM</DIV>
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up - Islam the religion of peace!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ms. Smith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So what "facts" would you have had me
attack? The fact that a small (in relation to the greater islamic
community, large in overall numbers) group of blood thirsty fanatics
will gleefully beat (or worse) a non-muslim to death at the drop
of a hat for an offense so slight that Christians wouldn't think twice
about it, much less perceive it as a mortal offense against their
all powerful God? Can't do it. Also feel free to spare me the
historical ignorance routine. At no point in history did The Church
act in such a savage manner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As long as you're feeling
meddlesome, you might as well point out exactly where I
"attacked" Carl. Subsequent communication that I have had with him
leads me to believe that he and I are cool with one another and that
he did not consider himself personally attacked. Either way, Carl is a
big boy and I'm sure if he has a problem with what I post he'll let me
know, we'll discuss it, work it out, and part friends. Your mediation
most assuredly won't be required.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lastly, I fail to see where you
manage to follow your own sage advise and attack my facts and
not me personally. Perhaps you should reach into your well
stocked broom closet and sweep before yer own door prior
to taking on the burden of mine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "deb" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>debismith@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
"Carl Westberg" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>carlwestberg846@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>; <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:41
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up -
Islam the religion of peace!</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2>> Gary, you need both a lesson in history and a
lesson in manners. Sadly, <BR>> someone taught you neither.
Attack the facts, not the individual. If you <BR>> are running on
empty, factually, just stop yourself.....<BR>> Debi R-S<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "g.
crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>> To: "Carl Westberg" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>carlwestberg846@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>; <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:04 PM<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of
peace!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> Carl, where would you feel more
comfortable, cataloging and shelving<BR>>> religious texts, at
that nasty, intolerant bastion of ill will and <BR>>>
bigotry,<BR>>> Anselm House or the religious studies section of
the library of Sand <BR>>> patch,<BR>>> Northern Nigeria?
(Kano) I'll bet big money I know the answer. I'll also <BR>>>
bet<BR>>> mega naira that should you find yourself working in
the 297 section of Get<BR>>> Me The Hell Out Of Here Library
(popular nickname used by English speaking<BR>>> non-Muslim
employees) you'll be inordinately mindful about sudden bouts
of<BR>>> clumsiness. I'm also betting that exclamations of
agnosticism probably <BR>>> won't<BR>>> be met with a hey,
no biggie response. Care to take me up on any of these<BR>>>
friendly wagers? Want to brush up on your book juggling skills
first?<BR>>><BR>>> g<BR>>> ----- Original Message
----- <BR>>> From: "Carl Westberg" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:carlwestberg846@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>carlwestberg846@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:13
PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the
religion of peace!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> The
repeated attempts by certain Christian folk to convince me that by
<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> mere fact of being Muslim, one is
evil, makes me all the more convinced<BR>>>>
that<BR>>>> to remain an agnostic who has Muslims and
Christians in his circle of<BR>>>> friends is the right
choice. Carl Westberg
Jr.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>>From: </FONT><A
href="mailto:heirdoug@netscape.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>heirdoug@netscape.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>>>>To: </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the
religion of peace!<BR>>>>>Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:46:20
-0400<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>..."the students began
shouting ?oAllahu Akbar? ... they vowed she
<BR>>>>>must<BR>>>>>pay with her
life."<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"The students, incited
to violence by the militant call to jihad,<BR>>>>>banded
together. Armed with knives and machetes, they started
chasing<BR>>>>>Oluwatoyin, who was said to have sought
refuge in the school<BR>>>>>principal's office. Breaking
down the barriers, they made their way<BR>>>>>into the
office and dragged Oluwatoyin outside. To make this a
public<BR>>>>>and demoralising spectacle, they stripped
her naked and began using the<BR>>>>>knives and machetes
on her body. Despite her pleas, the
murderous<BR>>>>>students eventually slaughtered her and
threw her into the boot of her<BR>>>>>own burning
car."<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"Still not satisfied with
enough jihad justice, they turned on the<BR>>>>>principal
Alhaji Mohammed Saidu, who tried to protect Oluwatoyin,
and<BR>>>>>beat him mercilessly. In their final rampage,
they proceeded to burn<BR>>>>>down the school clinic, the
administrative block and the
library."<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Olwatoyin
was 31 years old, married and had two little
children.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Sounds
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