Dear Mr Herodotus<br>
<br>
Thank you for the information. Since Poohs Blog or Poohs Speak (I
don't remember what it's called) seems to be down at the present time,
I have no way of reading all the information that is available.<br>
<br>
As I understand it, imprecatory prayer asks for God to destroy His
enemies. To me, the "His" indicates enemies of God, not the
enemies of some poor guy who thinks he's being persecuted. An
enemy of Doug Wilson (or you, or me, or anyone) is not necessarily an
enemy of God. Even if you or I or Doug Wilson THINK someone is an
enemy of God, doesn't make it so. So I guess it's up to God to
determine if the enemies against whom the imprecatory prayers
were offered were enemies worthy of being punished in His name. <br>
<br>
It sounds to me as if you are saying Christ Church is an enemy of God,
offered an imprecatroy prayer to God improperly, and as punishment for
that, God sent Steven Sitler to abuse their children. Did I get
that right? Is that how the God you believe in
functions?? Did God send us Jason Hamilton for some unknown
slight to Him or some other poor soul? If so, you may keep your
God; mine would never be so evil and callous. <br>
<br>
There was what I felt to be a divinely inspired service at the
Presbyterian Church this morning. At no time this morning did I
feel the presence of an cruel, insensitive God. When I do, it's
time to find another God.<br>
<br>
Schwaller<br>
<br>
As far as Douglas Wilson's thoughts on rape, I find them to be abhorrent.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bob Herodotus</b> <<a href="mailto:bherodotus@yahoo.com">bherodotus@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Mr. Schwaller,<br><br>Continuing
our education in the ABCs of Doug Wilson, you recall that I told you
that a local blogger broke the story about Steven Sitler and Pastor
Wilson's failure to warn his flock. Well, exactly one year ago today,
that blogger posted the following essay on his website, which I lifted
and archived for the benefit of folks like you. You will notice that I
used this post as the template for my previous contemplation:<br><br><br>Douglas
Wilson has adopted a policy of affirming the consequent, which is the
logical fallacy holding that the proposition "if A then B" necessitates
the proposition "if B then A," even though "if B then A" is plainly
false. For example, Scripture teaches that, as a rule, righteous people
will suffer persecution for their righteousness; but Scripture does not
teach that everyone who experiences opposition is living righteously,
which is the position advanced by Wilson when he points to all of the
Kirk's internal and external grief, saying, "We must be doing something
right." And while it may be true that Christ Church and its affiliated
ministries may be doing something right, it is certainly true that they
are doing many things wrong — very wrong — such as prayer.<br><br>Perhaps
you could reflect upon the Kirk's imprecatory-prayer policy and its
possible relation to Steven Sitler's serial predation of Kirk children.
>From June 2003 through July 2003, Christ Church conducted
imprecatory-prayer meetings — daily — asking God to visit judgment upon
their "enemies." Steven Sitler arrived in Moscow to attend New Saint
Andrews College in August 2003. And if you believe that God answers
prayer, then this fact deserves serious contemplation, especially in
light of Douglas Wilson's thoughts on rape, in his book "Fidelity":<br><br>"Violent
rape is a judgment of God upon a people. . . This does not justify the
perpetrators; it is simply the recognition that when disaster befalls a
city, sexual disaster for the women is part of this. This does not mean
that a woman who is raped should assume any personal responsibility for
it; she is innocent. . . Violent rape is God's judgment on a culture,
and individual women who are part of that culture are included in the
judgment. But this does not mean that they as individuals "deserved"
it. . . . We see the same judgment at work in disintegrating cultures:
'Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily,
therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil'
(Eccl. 8:11). Here the rape is not being perpetrated by foreign
soldiers, but is the result of citizens turning on one another. Every
culture is a gathering of sinners, and so rape is always a possibility.
But when God's hand of judgment is heavy upon a people, women are in<br>
far greater danger of sexual assault than at other
times." (Douglas Wilson, "Fidelity: What It Means To Be a
One-Woman Man" [Moscow: Canon Press, 1999] 82, 83)<br><br>If this
serial pedophilia had taken place in the local government school
system, Wilson would have wagged his finger at the disintegrating
culture, and if a person against whom the Kirk utters their imprecatory
prayers had suffered a similar hard providence, Wilson would fill the
web with gloats and jeers. But now we see that God has visited the
unspeakable upon Christ Church, and He did it at the exact time when
they labored in prayer beseeching harm upon their neighbors. This
should not go unnoticed.<br><br>Douglas Wilson's enemy theology
cultivates selfishness, implants acrimony, fosters revenge, and breeds
hate. It is a culture of death. It is a culture under "God's hand of
judgment." And the Kirk's enemy theology reached its zenith in the
summer of 2003, when they asked for pain, calamity, torment, and
affliction upon others; and God Almighty answered their imprecations
with one of their own citizens. God sent them Steven Sitler to rape
helpless and innocent children.<br><br>But the point is not Sitler's
abuse. These dear loved ones who suffered at Sitler's hands are not
merely victims of child molestation; they are victims of profound
spiritual abuse. They are victims of Doug Wilson's enemy theology. And
if the Kirk wants relief, or even mercy, then they should seek it at
the very place where they scorned it — on their knees, in prayer.<br><br>Thank you.<br><br><br><br> ___________________________________________________________________________________<br>You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck
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