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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ms. Mix.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bang a gong, you know my song, & you're not
wrong (in this isolated instance, unless you were attributing your closing line
to Bolen. It was actually David Essex)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>G. Brontosaurous</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=joekc@adelphia.net
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">Joe Campbell</A> ; <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 8:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p,
Schwaller! [was School District Math]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>In rereading Gary's original invitation, with his remarks that
Joe and I were like teens courting a prancing rock star, let me just state for
the record that I never once suggested that Glenn Schwaller was really the
fabulous Marc Bolan of T. Rex fame -- known for his magnificent locks and
sequined leather pants. <BR><BR>Which, whether regarding Marc Bolan or
Glenn Schwaller (or Joe or Gary), is a bit more than I want to contemplate
before I've had my coffee . . . <BR><BR>Rock on, ooooh, my
soul.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR>> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:47:03 -0700<BR>>
From: joekc@adelphia.net<BR>> To: jampot@adelphia.net<BR>> CC:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p, Schwaller!
[was School District Math]<BR>> <BR>> Gary,<BR>> <BR>> I guess I'm
still missing the point. Do you think that I'm J. Ford or one of the other
"ladies," as you call them? Is the insinuation that someone who would use a
false name, like your friend Dr. Schwaller, is a "lady" or a coward?<BR>>
<BR>> In any event, once you round up the "ladies" please come down to the
One World Cafe and I'll by you a cup of $1 coffee and we can talk. Even if no
one comes, stop by and we'll talk about what you really did mean to say since
it still isn't very clear to me. Remember, I'm only there from noon to 1 pm.
I'll be wearing a black hat that says "HP."<BR>> <BR>> Best, Joe<BR>>
<BR>> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net> wrote: <BR>>
<BR>> =============<BR>> Interesting that you zeroed in on the least
important part of my party invitation and completely missed the point. Oh
well, why should this time be any different from all the others<BR>>
<BR>> I'll notify the ladies that the mixer that was to occur after I
shared with them my unique expertise on all things that is me is off due to
your abrupt schedule change. They'll be crushed. That or perhaps Wayne knows
two fellas who are less than 101 years of age that can part with their walkers
long enough for a turn about the dance floor?<BR>> <BR>> Don't worry "J"
and not so silent "Bob" I'll see to it you get a name on your dance card
before the summers over. Don't despair!<BR>> <BR>> g<BR>> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Joe Campbell"
<joekc@adelphia.net><BR>> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:29 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Holy
cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District Math]<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Dr.
Crabtree,<BR>> > <BR>> > I'm very offended! Do you think I would
hang out at a place that sold beer for $5? How much do you think philosophers
make? $1 with your own mug and $1.25 otherwise.<BR>> > <BR>> > Dr.
Schwaller would be a big laugh, indeed, if it weren't for the fact that he's
got otherwise good and intelligent people like your self completely
fooled.<BR>> > <BR>> > Dr. Schwaller: If you're reading this, I
can only be at the One World for an hour tomorrow -- from noon to 1 pm -- for
I have to meet with a student in Pullman at 1:30. This shouldn’t be a problem
since you don’t exist.<BR>> > <BR>> > Final note to Crabtree:
Nearly all of your posts make the same point: A is a hypocrite because he says
X about B even though X applies equally to C and A has said nothing about
C!<BR>> > <BR>> > I've point out a few times that this is a lousy
argument. There is not enough time in the day to criticize everyone, so we
have to pick carefully. For instance, a lot of people have criticized
Schwaller but so far you’ve only replied to Keely and me. Try to get another
argument, just for the summer. Please.<BR>> > <BR>> > --<BR>>
> Joe Campbell<BR>> > <BR>> > ---- "g. crabtree"
<jampot@adelphia.net> wrote: <BR>> > <BR>> >
=============<BR>> > Mr. Campbell,<BR>> > <BR>> > Where are
you and Ms. Mix's manners? You two have been courting Schwaller as <BR>>
> though he were a prancing rock star and totally ignoring the other
<BR>> > purportedly anonymous contributors to our little list. Just
imagine how left <BR>> > out poor T. Scimitar, P.Place, B. Herodotus,
and last but mostly least J. <BR>> > Ford must feel. You should both
know how hurtful it is to see the pretty <BR>> > girls be asked to the
cotillion but the *others* have to stay home sobbing <BR>> > into their
little satin pillows for lack of that oh so important invitation. <BR>>
> In an attempt to make amends I demand that all the afore mentioned ladies
<BR>> > appear front and center in New St. Andrews square tomorrow at
12:00 to <BR>> > answer for various comments made on this forum with
which I disagree and to <BR>> > receive instruction from me in proper
deportment and decorum from a pleasing <BR>> > gcrabtree perspective.
When we are finished we will march in an orderly <BR>> > fashion down to
the One World (& $5.00) Coffee Joint Mr. Schaller and his <BR>> >
instructor for Dancing and "Atmosphere." Should you refuse to show up (as
<BR>> > I'm certain you will) I too will discontinue "conversations with
you about <BR>> > social or philosophical issues on Vision 2020." I can
but imagine how <BR>> > copiously the tears will flow at that
point.<BR>> > <BR>> > If you find my demeanor pompous and my
demands unreasonable or even <BR>> > ridiculous...<BR>> > <BR>>
> g<BR>> > <BR>> > P.S. Mr. Fox if you should happen to read
this admonition and invitation it <BR>> > will be apparent that we need
one more spry male to even up the dance <BR>> > partners. If you know of
one please send him on down.<BR>> > <BR>> > g<BR>> > -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Joe Campbell"
<joekc@adelphia.net><BR>> > To:
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:11
PM<BR>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p, Schwaller! [was School
District Math]<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >> Holy cr*p,
Doug!<BR>> >><BR>> >> 1/ I didn’t quote anything out of
context. People can judge for <BR>> >> themselves. You are just
throwing out your holy-than-thou cr*p in an <BR>> >> attempt to
justify using the “Venom 2020” tag for another year and I <BR>> >>
called you on it.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Note to readers: “25 cents
now, 1.5 million dollars later” is about as <BR>> >> illogical of an
example of the slippery-slope fallacy as you are likely to <BR>> >>
find!<BR>> >><BR>> >> 2/ Of course you won’t meet with me,
Doug, because “Glenn Schwaller” does <BR>> >> not exist and if you
did meet with me that would prove it.<BR>> >><BR>> >> You
say that I want to meet with you so that you can “Prove to me you're <BR>>
>> not Doug Wilson” but that is not the reason. I want to meet with you
<BR>> >> because your posts are long on wind and short on logic and I
think that I <BR>> >> might be able to help if you just gave me a few
minutes of your time. I am <BR>> >> nothing if not sincere. I have no
reason to lie. It is my actual name <BR>> >> below and my own
reputation at stake. (Perhaps your friends are too afraid <BR>> >> to
tell you when you've gone too far but I am not.)<BR>> >><BR>>
>> 3/ A few more clarifications to your rampant, harmful rhetoric: I do
not <BR>> >> think that you are Doug Wilson and I never called you
‘Doug Wilson.’ Nor <BR>> >> did I call you a coward. You seem to have
a problem with details. You tend <BR>> >> to regard all of those you
hate as if they were one person. I believe that <BR>> >> “Glenn
Schwaller” is four different guys, two of whom are named ‘Doug.’ I’m <BR>>
>> playing the odds and directing this post to someone of that
name.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Nor have I said anything about the
Weitz lawsuit. In fact, I agree that <BR>> >> vocational training
should be adopted by the MSD and I’m sad that by using <BR>> >>
extortion as the means to justify his end, Dr. Weitz has caused an <BR>>
>> important set back toward reaching that end. And I’m not alone on
this <BR>> >> view.<BR>> >><BR>> >> 4/ I have no
intention of continuing conversations with you about social <BR>> >>
or philosophical issues on Vision 2020. If you want me to listen to you,
<BR>> >> you have to meet me face-to-face. Again, I realize this puts
you in a <BR>> >> spot, seeing how you don’t exist, but (a) I spent a
lot of time preparing <BR>> >> a post that critiqued your views on
abortion, which you simply ignored, <BR>> >> and (b) your posts are
so long-winded and illogical that it pains me to <BR>> >> read them.
I’d rather meet you face-to-face, so that I can point out the <BR>>
>> fallacies as they go and spare the Vision 2020 readers further
long-winded <BR>> >> posts of my own.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> I’ll be at the One World Café from noon to 2 pm tomorrow. Doug
Farris, who <BR>> >> I actually like, imagines that I’m simply
waiting for you. I know you won’t <BR>> >> show but I have plenty of
work to do and I enjoy the atmosphere.<BR>> >><BR>> >> All
the best, Joe<BR>> >><BR>> >>
-----------------------------------------<BR>> >><BR>> >> Mr
Campbell,<BR>> >><BR>> >> There seems to be a pattern in
this venue to select a key point or<BR>> >> phrase in a post and
present it out of context. I'm probalby guilty<BR>> >> of that as
well, but I attempt to avoid doing so purposefully. That<BR>> >>
pattern seems a bit illogical to me, but hey, I haven't been teaching<BR>>
>> logic for 25 years . . .<BR>> >><BR>> >> You seemed
to have missed or neglected I mentioned in my post that,<BR>> >> yes
- it IS only 25 cents. To refresh your memory let me quote from<BR>>
>> that post:<BR>> >><BR>> >> " Well, 25 cents now,
1.5 million dollars later. It's not the<BR>> >> case-in-point
incident that is so nefarious; it's the precedent it<BR>> >> sets
that can be damaging."<BR>> >><BR>> >> This is the very
issue those who support / agree with / UNDERSTAND /<BR>> >> defend Dr
Weitze's case are arguing. Others have written more<BR>> >>
succinctly than I on that topic and I will not belabor it further.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> I beliveve I have explained how I know so much about
Mr Sitler. I was<BR>> >> reluctant to do so because I was quite
certain of the firestorm it<BR>> >> would produce and the associated
accusations / name-calling /<BR>> >> "illogical" jumps to conclusions
which did indeed happen. And, as I<BR>> >> suspected, it turned out
to be something many of you did not want to<BR>> >> hear, even after
BEGGING me to tell you. That seems a bit illogical<BR>> >> to me as
well.<BR>> >><BR>> >> I don't know how long NSA has been
downtown because, well, I don't<BR>> >> know. I could look it up I
suppose, but I didn't think it necessary.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
Against my better judgement, I was not going to address this (it<BR>>
>> struck me as the geek who stole your prom date being called out by
the<BR>> >> high-school bully) but I shall: I have chosen NOT to meet
with you<BR>> >> because, quite simply, I see no purpose in doing so.
Your primary<BR>> >> motive seems to be "Prove to me you're not Doug
Wilson. Or Steven<BR>> >> Sitler. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or the
anti-Christ." Where is the logic<BR>> >> in that? I could perhaps
send a ringer in my place. Are you going to<BR>> >> ask to see my
driver's license? My birth certificate? My green card?<BR>> >> Pinkie
swear?<BR>> >><BR>> >> You may call me a coward if you wish.
Better yet point your finger<BR>> >> and say "See! I told you so!
This proves my point!" After doing so,<BR>> >> I would suggest you go
dust off that introductory logic text and do a<BR>> >> bit more
reading. Maybe I should meet with you if for no other reason<BR>> >>
than to give you several copies (you may distribute them to your<BR>>
>> friends) of my favorite bumper sticker:<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Don't Confuse Me With Facts - My Mind Is Made Up<BR>>
>><BR>> >> That being said, for the record:<BR>>
>><BR>> >> 1. I am NOT Doug Wilson. I've never met Doug
Wilson<BR>> >> 2. I am NOT affiliated in any way with NSA, Christ
Church, Logos<BR>> >> School nor anything that (as far as I know) is
tied to those<BR>> >> institutions. I do, however, frequent
Bucers.<BR>> >> 3. I am NOT Steven Sitler, (I'm not sure if he's
allowed to go inot<BR>> >> Bucers . . .) nor a friend nor family
member.<BR>> >> 4. I don't know "where in the public record one may
confirm that I<BR>> >> have "worked for several months with Mr Sitler
and other sex offenders<BR>> >> in our area." The names of Mr.
Sitler's doctors, counselors, and<BR>> >> therapists are matters of
public record." However, public records are<BR>> >> not
all-inclusive.<BR>> >> 5. I'm not even Gerald Weitz<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Schwaller<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>>
>><BR>> >>
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