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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>G-ster :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s nice to see that your knowledge
of pop music is sharper than your knowledge of history.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>David Essex’s . . .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Rock On”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Rock_On.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Rock_On.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>leaves only one question:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Where do we go from here<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Which is the way that's clear?”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And don’t think that I’ve
forgotten about you, Dodalnat Wilcourson (formerly in the role of Glenn “Swallerin’
Squalor” Schwaller). This song goes out to all of you and all you’ve
done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><a
href="javascript:ol('http://tinyurl.com/3272rp');"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>http://tinyurl.com/3272rp</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.
The college students are not very active in local elections (thank
goodness!)."<br>
<br>
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>g. crabtree<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 01, 2007 12:48
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">keely
emerinemix</st1:PersonName>; Joe Campbell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Holy
cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District Math]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ms. Mix.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Bang a gong, you know my song, & you're not wrong
(in this isolated instance, unless you were attributing your closing line to
Bolen. It was actually David Essex)</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>G. Brontosaurous</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" title="kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net" title="joekc@adelphia.net">Joe Campbell</a> ; <a
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net" title="jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday, June 01,
2007 8:45 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: [Vision2020]
Holy cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District Math]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>In rereading <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City>'s original invitation, with his remarks
that Joe and I were like teens courting a prancing rock star, let me just state
for the record that I never once suggested that Glenn Schwaller was really the
fabulous Marc Bolan of T. Rex fame -- known for his magnificent locks and
sequined leather pants. <br>
<br>
Which, whether regarding Marc Bolan or Glenn Schwaller (or Joe or Gary), is a
bit more than I want to contemplate before I've had my coffee . . . <br>
<br>
Rock on, ooooh, my soul.<br>
<br>
keely<br>
<br>
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:47:03 -0700<br>
> From: joekc@adelphia.net<br>
> To: jampot@adelphia.net<br>
> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District Math]<br>
> <br>
> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City>,<br>
> <br>
> I guess I'm still missing the point. Do you think that I'm J. Ford or one
of the other "ladies," as you call them? Is the insinuation that
someone who would use a false name, like your friend Dr. Schwaller, is a
"lady" or a coward?<br>
> <br>
> In any event, once you round up the "ladies" please come down to
the One World Cafe and I'll by you a cup of $1 coffee and we can talk. Even if
no one comes, stop by and we'll talk about what you really did mean to say
since it still isn't very clear to me. Remember, I'm only there from noon to 1
pm. I'll be wearing a black hat that says "HP."<br>
> <br>
> Best, Joe<br>
> <br>
> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> =============<br>
> Interesting that you zeroed in on the least important part of my party
invitation and completely missed the point. Oh well, why should this time be
any different from all the others<br>
> <br>
> I'll notify the ladies that the mixer that was to occur after I shared
with them my unique expertise on all things that is me is off due to your
abrupt schedule change. They'll be crushed. That or perhaps Wayne knows two
fellas who are less than 101 years of age that can part with their walkers long
enough for a turn about the dance floor?<br>
> <br>
> Don't worry "J" and not so silent "Bob" I'll see to it
you get a name on your dance card before the summers over. Don't despair!<br>
> <br>
> g<br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc@adelphia.net><br>
> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:29 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District Math]<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > Dr. Crabtree,<br>
> > <br>
> > I'm very offended! Do you think I would hang out at a place that sold
beer for $5? How much do you think philosophers make? $1 with your own mug and
$1.25 otherwise.<br>
> > <br>
> > Dr. Schwaller would be a big laugh, indeed, if it weren't for the
fact that he's got otherwise good and intelligent people like your self
completely fooled.<br>
> > <br>
> > Dr. Schwaller: If you're reading this, I can only be at the One World
for an hour tomorrow -- from noon to 1 pm -- for I have to meet with a student
in Pullman at 1:30. This shouldn’t be a problem since you don’t
exist.<br>
> > <br>
> > Final note to Crabtree: Nearly all of your posts make the same point:
A is a hypocrite because he says X about B even though X applies equally to C
and A has said nothing about C!<br>
> > <br>
> > I've point out a few times that this is a lousy argument. There is
not enough time in the day to criticize everyone, so we have to pick carefully.
For instance, a lot of people have criticized Schwaller but so far you’ve
only replied to Keely and me. Try to get another argument, just for the summer.
Please.<br>
> > <br>
> > --<br>
> > Joe Campbell<br>
> > <br>
> > ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net> wrote: <br>
> > <br>
> > =============<br>
> > Mr. Campbell,<br>
> > <br>
> > Where are you and Ms. Mix's manners? You two have been courting
Schwaller as <br>
> > though he were a prancing rock star and totally ignoring the other <br>
> > purportedly anonymous contributors to our little list. Just imagine
how left <br>
> > out poor T. Scimitar, P.Place, B. Herodotus, and last but mostly
least J. <br>
> > Ford must feel. You should both know how hurtful it is to see the
pretty <br>
> > girls be asked to the cotillion but the *others* have to stay home
sobbing <br>
> > into their little satin pillows for lack of that oh so important
invitation. <br>
> > In an attempt to make amends I demand that all the afore mentioned
ladies <br>
> > appear front and center in New St. Andrews square tomorrow at 12:00
to <br>
> > answer for various comments made on this forum with which I disagree
and to <br>
> > receive instruction from me in proper deportment and decorum from a
pleasing <br>
> > gcrabtree perspective. When we are finished we will march in an
orderly <br>
> > fashion down to the One World (& $5.00) Coffee Joint Mr. Schaller
and his <br>
> > instructor for Dancing and "Atmosphere." Should you refuse
to show up (as <br>
> > I'm certain you will) I too will discontinue "conversations with
you about <br>
> > social or philosophical issues on Vision 2020." I can but
imagine how <br>
> > copiously the tears will flow at that point.<br>
> > <br>
> > If you find my demeanor pompous and my demands unreasonable or even <br>
> > ridiculous...<br>
> > <br>
> > g<br>
> > <br>
> > P.S. Mr. Fox if you should happen to read this admonition and
invitation it <br>
> > will be apparent that we need one more spry male to even up the dance
<br>
> > partners. If you know of one please send him on down.<br>
> > <br>
> > g<br>
> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc@adelphia.net><br>
> > To: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:11 PM<br>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Holy cr*p, Schwaller! [was School District
Math]<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >> Holy cr*p, Doug!<br>
> >><br>
> >> 1/ I didn’t quote anything out of context. People can judge
for <br>
> >> themselves. You are just throwing out your holy-than-thou cr*p in
an <br>
> >> attempt to justify using the “Venom 2020” tag for
another year and I <br>
> >> called you on it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Note to readers: “25 cents now, 1.5 million dollars
later” is about as <br>
> >> illogical of an example of the slippery-slope fallacy as you are
likely to <br>
> >> find!<br>
> >><br>
> >> 2/ Of course you won’t meet with me, Doug, because
“Glenn Schwaller” does <br>
> >> not exist and if you did meet with me that would prove it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> You say that I want to meet with you so that you can “Prove
to me you're <br>
> >> not Doug Wilson” but that is not the reason. I want to meet
with you <br>
> >> because your posts are long on wind and short on logic and I
think that I <br>
> >> might be able to help if you just gave me a few minutes of your
time. I am <br>
> >> nothing if not sincere. I have no reason to lie. It is my actual
name <br>
> >> below and my own reputation at stake. (Perhaps your friends are
too afraid <br>
> >> to tell you when you've gone too far but I am not.)<br>
> >><br>
> >> 3/ A few more clarifications to your rampant, harmful rhetoric: I
do not <br>
> >> think that you are Doug Wilson and I never called you ‘Doug
Wilson.’ Nor <br>
> >> did I call you a coward. You seem to have a problem with details.
You tend <br>
> >> to regard all of those you hate as if they were one person. I
believe that <br>
> >> “Glenn Schwaller” is four different guys, two of whom
are named ‘Doug.’ I’m <br>
> >> playing the odds and directing this post to someone of that name.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Nor have I said anything about the Weitz lawsuit. In fact, I
agree that <br>
> >> vocational training should be adopted by the MSD and I’m
sad that by using <br>
> >> extortion as the means to justify his end, Dr. Weitz has caused
an <br>
> >> important set back toward reaching that end. And I’m not
alone on this <br>
> >> view.<br>
> >><br>
> >> 4/ I have no intention of continuing conversations with you about
social <br>
> >> or philosophical issues on Vision 2020. If you want me to listen
to you, <br>
> >> you have to meet me face-to-face. Again, I realize this puts you
in a <br>
> >> spot, seeing how you don’t exist, but (a) I spent a lot of
time preparing <br>
> >> a post that critiqued your views on abortion, which you simply
ignored, <br>
> >> and (b) your posts are so long-winded and illogical that it pains
me to <br>
> >> read them. I’d rather meet you face-to-face, so that I can
point out the <br>
> >> fallacies as they go and spare the Vision 2020 readers further
long-winded <br>
> >> posts of my own.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I’ll be at the One World Café from noon to 2 pm tomorrow.
Doug Farris, who <br>
> >> I actually like, imagines that I’m simply waiting for you.
I know you won’t <br>
> >> show but I have plenty of work to do and I enjoy the atmosphere.<br>
> >><br>
> >> All the best, Joe<br>
> >><br>
> >> -----------------------------------------<br>
> >><br>
> >> Mr Campbell,<br>
> >><br>
> >> There seems to be a pattern in this venue to select a key point
or<br>
> >> phrase in a post and present it out of context. I'm probalby
guilty<br>
> >> of that as well, but I attempt to avoid doing so purposefully.
That<br>
> >> pattern seems a bit illogical to me, but hey, I haven't been
teaching<br>
> >> logic for 25 years . . .<br>
> >><br>
> >> You seemed to have missed or neglected I mentioned in my post
that,<br>
> >> yes - it IS only 25 cents. To refresh your memory let me quote
from<br>
> >> that post:<br>
> >><br>
> >> " Well, 25 cents now, 1.5 million dollars later. It's not
the<br>
> >> case-in-point incident that is so nefarious; it's the precedent
it<br>
> >> sets that can be damaging."<br>
> >><br>
> >> This is the very issue those who support / agree with /
UNDERSTAND /<br>
> >> defend Dr Weitze's case are arguing. Others have written more<br>
> >> succinctly than I on that topic and I will not belabor it
further.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I beliveve I have explained how I know so much about Mr Sitler. I
was<br>
> >> reluctant to do so because I was quite certain of the firestorm
it<br>
> >> would produce and the associated accusations / name-calling /<br>
> >> "illogical" jumps to conclusions which did indeed
happen. And, as I<br>
> >> suspected, it turned out to be something many of you did not want
to<br>
> >> hear, even after BEGGING me to tell you. That seems a bit
illogical<br>
> >> to me as well.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I don't know how long NSA has been downtown because, well, I
don't<br>
> >> know. I could look it up I suppose, but I didn't think it
necessary.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Against my better judgement, I was not going to address this (it<br>
> >> struck me as the geek who stole your prom date being called out
by the<br>
> >> high-school bully) but I shall: I have chosen NOT to meet with
you<br>
> >> because, quite simply, I see no purpose in doing so. Your primary<br>
> >> motive seems to be "Prove to me you're not Doug Wilson. Or
Steven<br>
> >> Sitler. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or the anti-Christ." Where is the
logic<br>
> >> in that? I could perhaps send a ringer in my place. Are you going
to<br>
> >> ask to see my driver's license? My birth certificate? My green
card?<br>
> >> Pinkie swear?<br>
> >><br>
> >> You may call me a coward if you wish. Better yet point your
finger<br>
> >> and say "See! I told you so! This proves my point!"
After doing so,<br>
> >> I would suggest you go dust off that introductory logic text and
do a<br>
> >> bit more reading. Maybe I should meet with you if for no other
reason<br>
> >> than to give you several copies (you may distribute them to your<br>
> >> friends) of my favorite bumper sticker:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Don't Confuse Me With Facts - My Mind Is Made Up<br>
> >><br>
> >> That being said, for the record:<br>
> >><br>
> >> 1. I am NOT Doug Wilson. I've never met Doug Wilson<br>
> >> 2. I am NOT affiliated in any way with NSA, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>,
Logos<br>
> >> School nor anything that (as far as I know) is tied to those<br>
> >> institutions. I do, however, frequent Bucers.<br>
> >> 3. I am NOT Steven Sitler, (I'm not sure if he's allowed to go
inot<br>
> >> Bucers . . .) nor a friend nor family member.<br>
> >> 4. I don't know "where in the public record one may confirm
that I<br>
> >> have "worked for several months with Mr Sitler and other sex
offenders<br>
> >> in our area." The names of Mr. Sitler's doctors, counselors,
and<br>
> >> therapists are matters of public record." However, public
records are<br>
> >> not all-inclusive.<br>
> >> 5. I'm not even Gerald Weitz<br>
> >><br>
> >> Schwaller<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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