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Most people probably have the following question in mind after reading your list of denials: Why should I care?<br><br>But I have a different one. It's, "why should I believe you?"<br><br>This leads to a third one, namely, "why not just show up, meet Joe or me, and dispel the notion that you're not who you say you are?" Because if you're not, then you're a liar. <br><br>And if you have any sort of moral compass at all, especially after the claims you've made, being thought of as a liar would HAVE to bother you. Of course, maybe lying only matters if no one knows for sure, and so if no one knows who you are . . . well, here I go, bein' all circuitous again in my reasoning . . . <br><br>keely<br><br>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:44:48 -0700<br>> From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] School District Math<br>> <br>> Mr Campbell,<br>> <br>> There seems to be a pattern in this venue to select a key point or<br>> phrase in a post and present it out of context. I'm probalby guilty<br>> of that as well, but I attempt to avoid doing so purposefully. That<br>> pattern seems a bit illogical to me, but hey, I haven't been teaching<br>> logic for 25 years . . .<br>> <br>> You seemed to have missed or neglected I mentioned in my post that,<br>> yes - it IS only 25 cents. To refresh your memory let me quote from<br>> that post:<br>> <br>> " Well, 25 cents now, 1.5 million dollars later. It's not the<br>> case-in-point incident that is so nefarious; it's the precedent it<br>> sets that can be damaging."<br>> <br>> This is the very issue those who support / agree with / UNDERSTAND /<br>> defend Dr Weitze's case are arguing. Others have written more<br>> succinctly than I on that topic and I will not belabor it further.<br>> <br>> I beliveve I have explained how I know so much about Mr Sitler. I was<br>> reluctant to do so because I was quite certain of the firestorm it<br>> would produce and the associated accusations / name-calling /<br>> "illogical" jumps to conclusions which did indeed happen. And, as I<br>> suspected, it turned out to be something many of you did not want to<br>> hear, even after BEGGING me to tell you. That seems a bit illogical<br>> to me as well.<br>> <br>> I don't know how long NSA has been downtown because, well, I don't<br>> know. I could look it up I suppose, but I didn't think it necessary.<br>> <br>> Against my better judgement, I was not going to address this (it<br>> struck me as the geek who stole your prom date being called out by the<br>> high-school bully) but I shall: I have chosen NOT to meet with you<br>> because, quite simply, I see no purpose in doing so. Your primary<br>> motive seems to be "Prove to me you're not Doug Wilson. Or Steven<br>> Sitler. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or the anti-Christ." Where is the logic<br>> in that? I could perhaps send a ringer in my place. Are you going to<br>> ask to see my driver's license? My birth certificate? My green card?<br>> Pinkie swear?<br>> <br>> You may call me a coward if you wish. Better yet point your finger<br>> and say "See! I told you so! This proves my point!" After doing so,<br>> I would suggest you go dust off that introductory logic text and do a<br>> bit more reading. Maybe I should meet with you if for no other reason<br>> than to give you several copies (you may distribute them to your<br>> friends) of my favorite bumper sticker:<br>> <br>> Don't Confuse Me With Facts - My Mind Is Made Up<br>> <br>> That being said, for the record:<br>> <br>> 1. I am NOT Doug Wilson. I've never met Doug Wilson<br>> 2. I am NOT affiliated in any way with NSA, Christ Church, Logos<br>> School nor anything that (as far as I know) is tied to those<br>> institutions. I do, however, frequent Bucers.<br>> 3. I am NOT Steven Sitler, (I'm not sure if he's allowed to go inot<br>> Bucers . . .) nor a friend nor family member.<br>> 4. I don't know "where in the public record one may confirm that I<br>> have "worked for several months with Mr Sitler and other sex offenders<br>> in our area." The names of Mr. Sitler's doctors, counselors, and<br>> therapists are matters of public record." However, public records are<br>> not all-inclusive.<br>> 5. I'm not even Gerald Weitz<br>> <br>> Schwaller<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 5/30/07, Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net> wrote:<br>> > Schwaller writes:<br>> ><br>> > "I think any citizen should be concerned about unnecessary financial<br>> > burdens being levied against them. Seems like a smart idea to me<br>> > unless one has gobs of money to toss about freely. I was mostly<br>> > curious why grade school kids had to pay almost 15 percent more for<br>> > their lunches, adults only 9 percent, and from where they got their<br>> > jumble of numbers."<br>> ><br>> > Holly cr*p, Schwaller! (To use a favorite phrase of yours.) They raised each<br>> > meal by 25 cents. This is not a great mystery!<br>> ><br>> > I feel a little odd calling you 'Schwaller' and having you call me 'Mr.<br>> > Campbell.' Please call me 'Joe.' I'll call you 'Doug.' (Of course, I<br>> > understand that calling me 'Joe' won't produce the same giggles amongst your<br>> > friends, so I'll understand if you don't take me up on the offer! Think how<br>> > my friends will giggle in the meantime!)<br>> ><br>> > Another question, Doug: How is it that you can know so much about Sitler yet<br>> > not know how long NSA has been downtown?<br>> ><br>> > Holy cr*p, indeed!<br>> ><br>> > All the best, Joe<br>> ><br>> > ------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > Message: 5<br>> > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 17:48:00 -0700<br>> > From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller@gmail.com><br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] School District Math<br>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Message-ID:<br>> > <323338460705301748m6c709cc7rde82c5c94c46e045@mail.gmail.com><br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>> ><br>> > Mr Hansen,<br>> ><br>> > I think any citizen should be concerned about unnecessary financial<br>> > burdens being levied against them. Seems like a smart idea to me<br>> > unless one has gobs of money to toss about freely. I was mostly<br>> > curious why grade school kids had to pay almost 15 percent more for<br>> > their lunches, adults only 9 percent, and from where they got their<br>> > jumble of numbers.<br>> ><br>> > There was a bit of a subtle point in there. I suspect it was missed.<br>> ><br>> > As far as NSA College being in the central business district, I don't<br>> > know how long the building they occupy was vacant before they moved<br>> > in, nor what other "businesses" may have been interested in that<br>> > location. For all we know had NSA College not moved in, the building<br>> > would still be vacant with NO benefit to the downtown area whatsoever.<br>> > It seems to me the students, faculty, staff, and others who use the<br>> > College frequent local retail-based, tax-paying entities nearby, thus<br>> > bolstering the local economy. I don't know by how much that<br>> > additional business may offset the tax burden.<br>> ><br>> > How far away from the "heart of the town's central business district"<br>> > does one need to go before a tax-exempt entity can safely be granted<br>> > domicile?<br>> ><br>> > With respect to your caveat concerning the management's (I assume you<br>> > refer to Roy Atwood?) comments on non-growth, I'd have to read them if<br>> > I were to consider what impact they may have on giving you as complete<br>> > an answer as possible.<br>> ><br>> > Schwaller<br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Create the ultimate e-mail address book. 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