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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To put it simply, g-ster –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are (or at least “I am”)
aware of these other sex offenders. Thank you, Dale Courtney, for your
consciousness to post the sex offender database with Google maps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>However, all but one of these offenders has
not been convicted in several years. None of them have a history
commensurate with Steven J. Sitler and his dozens of dozens of dozens of offenses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of those you mention –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael Ashcraft – Date of
Conviction: June 26, 1991<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael J. Brazington – Date of
Conviction: April 18, 2000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert P. Buckingham – Date of
Conviction: June 28, 2004<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Frank H. Burkgart – Date of
Conviction: March 31, 1997<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Harvey L. Hamilton – Date of
Conviction: July 19, 1985<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael J. Hardway – Date of
Conviction: May 15, 1990<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dennis J. Hendrix – Date of
Conviction: November 22, 1985<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wayne E. Jacobs – Date of
Conviction: May 11, 1998<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Knute D. Klingler – Date of
Conviction: December 21, 2000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kevin E. Osterberg – Date of
Conviction: January 6, 2000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could not find any record of Christopher
Busting. Would you be so kind as to provide it here for us?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is nothing to reflect any of these
felons as being repeat offenders, definitely not to the scale of Steven J.
Sitler.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>g. crabtree<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:32
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> keely emerinemix; Glenn
Schwaller; Bob Herodotus; vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] A
personal invitation to Mr. Schwaller</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It's rather difficult to take all the indignation and self
righteousness expressed by a certain element on this list as seriously as one
might otherwise. Why is Sitler singled out for all the condemnation (not
that he doesn't deserve every ounce of it) when there has there
been nary a peep when it comes to others who have committed the very same (or
worse) crime in this county and also still reside here. Where is your
"legitimate fears" when it comes to Michael Ashcraft, Christopher Busting,
and Mike Brazington? Why are you not so vocally "concerned" about
Robert Buckingham, Frank Burkgart, and Harvey Hamilton? What about the
likelihood of reoffense for Michael Hardway, Dennis Hendrix, Wayne Jacobs,
Knute Klingler, and Kevin Osterberg? Could it be that they get no Vision 2020
scrutiny and castigation because to do so would not further an
agenda? I'm afraid that the pious blather that comes from History <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Dad</st1:PersonName>dy and his little band of likeminded
friends would be far easier to stomach were it not so blatantly just
another cynical means to an end.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>g</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" title="kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com" title="vpschwaller@gmail.com">Glenn
Schwaller</a> ; <a href="mailto:bherodotus@yahoo.com"
title="bherodotus@yahoo.com">Bob Herodotus</a> ; <a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, May 29,
2007 7:52 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [Vision2020] A
personal invitation to Mr. Schwaller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Somewhere between five and 98
percent of all Visionaires who read the post below detect an undercurrent
of snarling, manly arrogance. I'm guessing that the two percent
were raising their Sabbath glasses to him.<br>
<br>
Either way, his attempts to mask his disdain for his questioner by quoting the
gamut of statistics that might address the Sitler situation fell flat.
I'm afraid indifference to the genuine concern expressed by other Visionaires
and disdain for them for expressing it leaked out like a robust Syrah in
cloudy, cracked stemware.<br>
<br>
I'll try it the simple, albeit shrill and insistent, manner Schwaller by now
knows me for:<br>
<br>
Can you possibly grasp the anger this community has toward Sitler and those who
dealt with him, and can you understand the legitimate fears of those concerned
that he's out of jail? <br>
<br>
keely<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:18:47
-0700<br>
From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>
To: bherodotus@yahoo.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A personal invitation to Mr. Schwaller<br>
<br>
Visionaries and Mr Herodotus,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the invitation to "return" but I never really
left. I was simply a bit busy over the past few days taking advantage of
the weather break to plant the begonias, nasturtiums, and geraniums.<br>
<br>
I'll attempt to answer your questions, but I do so assuming you are being
genuine and not disingenuous in your query. I mention this only because
another visionary has questioned "the truth about (your) opinions",
that this individual "Doesn't believe I'll do that" (accept the truth
of my opinions), "thank you very much.", then proceeds to demand the
answer to 3 additional questions.<br>
<br>
So, on to your questions. These are important, timely questions that
deserve answers. However, I don't believe I can give you full nor
adequate answers to any of them. I don't know that definitive answers
exist, however one can find just about any answer one wants to fit one's
position. That being said:<br>
<br>
"1. Can you please tell us the recidivism rate for serial
pedophiles?"<br>
<br>
I don't believe a thorough statistical study has been done for over 10
years. So keeping that in mind, according to the U.S. Department of
Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, within 3 years of release from
incarceration, a little more than 5 percent of sex offenders were rearrested
for another sex crime. If one looks at ALL crimes committed, about 40
percent of sex offenders were rearrested for other offenses.<br>
<br>
Within this three year period, 3.5 percent of convicted sex offenders were
convicted again for a sex crime, 24 percent convicted for new crimes, and about
40 percent are imprisoned again because of a parole or probation violation.<br>
<br>
However, if you're <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Joan Opyr</st1:PersonName>, in an
article she published not quite a year ago, she quotes a 75% recidivism rate.<br>
<br>
The USDJ study also looked at the relationship between offenders and victims
and reported that overall, 46 percent of the victims were a family
member. A 2005 study by the National Crime Victimization Survey reports
that 73 percent of sexual assaults were known by the victim: 38 percent were a
friend or acquaintance, 28 percent were involved in an "intimate"
relationship, and 7 percent were another relative. <br>
<br>
An NPR story in 2005 offered a 98 percent recidivism rate over a 25 year
period, with a 60 percent likelihood of offending again within 5 years under
the best treatment available., there is a 60% occurrence of re-offence within
five years. The story also mentions that the offender in most sexual abuse
cases is a family member or friend of the family (97 percent for victims
under the age of 6, and 95 percent of those between the ages 6 and 12).<br>
<br>
So, somewhere between 5 and 95 percent?<br>
<br>
"2. Can you please share with us the average number of children that
repeat offenders violate before their discovery?"<br>
<br>
Again, I have no concrete statistics. There is apparently some
information on Mr Sitler's repeated violations before he was discovered (I'm
sure Mr Hansen can give you that number off the top of his head). The
numbers seem to run from one to dozens over decades for catholic priests.
And in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portugal</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
a driver and gardener was accused of molesting children at the school where he
was worked. After questioning and examining more than 600 children, over
125 were reported to have been victimized by this individual.<br>
<br>
So, somewhere between 1 and more than 125? <br>
<br>
"3, Can you please describe for us a worst-case scenario for the
children of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
(number of victims, age of victims, types of abuse, etc.), if Mr. Sitler
resumes his pattern of serial predation?"<br>
<br>
Quite frankly, I sense an undercurrent of sarcasm in this last question, but
hey . . .<br>
<br>
Maybe you can ask me how many polar bears, perched on their ever-diminishing
slab of ice, are going to starve tonight?<br>
<br>
Well, obviously I can't give you the answers you would like to hear. I
doubt even Mr Sitler himself would know, given the worst possible case, what
would be the answers to those questions. However, if you refer back to
the replies to Question 1, you may find some answers of sorts in there.<br>
<br>
I'd like to think I have the community's, but perhaps not that of starving
polar bear's, interests at heart.<br>
<br>
Schwaller<br>
<br>
"You can always see it commin', but you can never stop it."<br>
--Michael Timmins<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=ecgmailquote><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>On 5/28/07, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Bob Herodotus</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:bherodotus@yahoo.com">bherodotus@yahoo.com </a>> wrote:</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Visionaries and Mr. Schwaller,<br>
<br>
I personally invite Mr. Schwaller to return to this forum because I for one
found his posts both provocative and enlightening. Hard facts about serial
pedophiles are difficult to ascertain and I commend him for sharing his
knowledge of this unseemly subject with us so that we as a community can be
better prepared to address a predator in our midst.<br>
<br>
With this in mind, I have a couple of questions for Mr. Schwaller.<br>
<br>
1. Can you please tell us the recidivism rate for serial pedophiles?<br>
<br>
2. Can you please share with us the average number of children that repeat
offenders violate before their discovery?<br>
<br>
3. Finally, given your familiarity with Steven Sitler's case file, can you
please describe for us a worst-case scenario for the children of Moscow (number
of victims, age of victims, types of abuse, etc.), if Mr. Sitler resumes his
pattern of serial predation?<br>
<br>
I believe that these are reasonable questions for a community to ask and I
believe that you have our community's best interests at heart.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Herodotus<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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