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<DIV>Jesus, Gary,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lighten up.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The puzzle was yesterday's Jumble which appears in two newspapers which are
widely circulated in Latah County.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Nothing else was intended save to note the coincidence in the subjects --
taxes and locksmiths. Just as the creators of Jumble did not mean to
malign locksmiths in general or any particular locksmith, neither did I.
The solution to a Jumble is always and only a joke. Or are you the only
one on V 2020 allowed to attempt humor?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There was also no allegation about nor any attempt to probe your business
relationship or paperwork on my part.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As to trying your patience, I can do that without trying by writing on
almost any subject as you will see tomorrow. It's called a clash of
worldviews.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>W.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art
Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2007 6:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Enough already! I'm not exactly sure what your
point was in posting the little word puzzle but, for the record:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. I am an at-will employee at the Lock Shop. Taxes
are withheld from my salary in accordance with all applicable state and federal
laws.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. I file tax returns every year in accordance with
all applicable state and federal laws. All my taxes are paid. I am current
with the IRS, and I have never been audited.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. My property taxes are currently paid and up to
date.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the point of your post was to be amusing, you
were not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the point was to make a
baseless allegation, you're in error. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If your point is to simply try my patience, you're
a jackass.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. If you do have an allegation to make hows
about you spit it out, right here, right now, for all the list to see. You have
used this tactic several times in the past to disparage people with whom you
disagree and I, for one, am more then a little tired of it. So, here it is. Put
up or shut up.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2007 4:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer
Rights</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2007 2:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom, your argument with regard to the president
works wonderfully to illustrate the patent unfairness of the MSD's
supplemental levy scheme for obtaining additional funds. Every four years
you get an opportunity to elect yourself a new national leader. Even if you
fail, the scoundrel is out in eight years no matter what. With the levy, once
its in its in forever. Perfectly reasonable people who, for reasons of their
own, are not in favor of the tax increase must be constantly voting to keep
the increases at bay. Those in favor must only get lucky once and the rest of
the community is put upon into perpetuity. Plus, if the levy
fails the district simply wears down the voters by marginally reducing the
amount they ask for and coming back again and again until they finally
succeed. Once they establish the new, albeit slightly lower bonus they simply
come back with their hand out a little sooner then they might have had the
original levy passed and start the whole nightmare over again. To establish
a modicum of fairness in this process the levy's should:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A. Sunset after a given number of years. (If
Moscow's economy were to seriously tank, property values plummet and school
district enrolment numbers shrink drastically, do you really think we should
be bound by levy's from the distant past?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>B. Require at least a 60% or greater voter
approval. (I'd prefer 75%)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>C. Be put to a single vote at regularly
scheduled elections (to avoid voter fatigue and cherry picking election
dates)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom
Ivie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2007 9:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer
Rights</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I thought about this for a little while and decided that it
is much like voting for a President. Someone elected without a
"mandate" can still become President (Clinton). A "simple" majority
(even if decided by a court) can still make you President (Bush II).
When we vote, those of us 18 and older, are voting for those who can't yet
vote (those not 18 and not yet legal to vote yet -as in immigrants). But
they have to live with the outcome of that vote until the next opportunity
arises that they MAY be able to vote if they have become of age or legal to
vote -become a U.S. citizen. <BR><BR><B><I>Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>The Wietz lawsuit raises some important questions in my mind,
particularly regarding taxpayers and their rights. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is it fair, first off, to have a vote to pay taxes for an indefinite
amount of time? Seems rather unfair, voting to tax people in the future
that have not been given the right to decide what tax level they feel is
fair. Being told, "People in the past already voted and so you don't get
to decide, ever, unless of course you want to raise the tax rate."--hardly
seems reasonable to me. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Second, at what point is the minority tax payer able to rebel against
the taxes levied upon him/her by the majority? What rights do they have to
protect them from out right exploitation and thievery by the tax
levying democratic majority?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Third, are property taxes even fair or just? Taxing people on where
they live, even knocking those on fixed incomes right outta their
homes?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Finally, placing the entire burden of running schools,
the largest expense, squarely on the back of property owners seems
rather harsh, is not greatly unjust. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What do you think? Am I wrong to think that there should be
some limits placed on what the democratic majority can do to the
minority taxpayer that just feels completely robbed and stripped
of the fruits of their hard labor? Is it possible Gerry Wietz and
other feel the same way?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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