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It takes a special kind of hubris, a terrific form of arrogance, to propose an analogy that attempts to equate slavery and the civil disobedience -- revolt -- required to end it, and the burdens of being a white guy who thinks he pays too much in taxes.<br><br>keely<br><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:54:24 -0700<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>To: thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights<br><br><div>Hansen writes:</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">"If limits were to be imposed against the “democratic majority”, how would it be decided who imposes these limitations?"</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">How about a social contract (Constitution) and Judicial Branch that limits what the majority can force the minority to do,&nbsp;unalienable rights that cannot be voted away, even by a 9/10 majority? In cases of taxes, how about a limit of 50% of one's total earned wealth? How about an alternative MAXIMUM taxed limit so you got something left?</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">"Nobody has the right to hand-pick which laws they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) they will ignore, not even the minority."</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">They don't? So a slave has no right to freedom if the majority says he/she does not? You have no right to oppose the will of the majority that may wish to euthanize your wife or&nbsp;mother? How about infanticide, murder, or torture of animals?
 Are there no moral or ethical values which you see as being above the law written by humans?</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Slavery in your view then, was right, and slaves had no right to object or flee their society&nbsp;created social roles handed to them by the vote of the majority?</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Interesting perspective, please elaborate Hansen.</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Best,</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Donovan</span></font></div></span></font>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div><br><br><b><i>Tom Hansen &lt;thansen@moscow.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:</div>  <blockquote class="EC_replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">            <div class="EC_Section1">  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Arnold</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> stated:</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">“Am I wrong to think that there should be some limits placed on what the democratic majority can do to the minority taxpayer that just feels completely
 robbed and stripped of the fruits of their hard labor?”</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">If limits were to be imposed against the “democratic majority”, how would it be decided who imposes these limitations?</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">It is really very, very simple.&nbsp; The very foundation of our government is utilitarian in concept, the belief that most of the people know what is best for most of the people most of the
 time – rule by majority.</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Nobody has the right to hand-pick which laws they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) they will ignore, not even the minority.</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Seeya round town, Moscow.</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Tom Hansen</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Moscow</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">, Idaho</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></div>  <div class="EC_MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">"The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it."<br><br>- Abbie Hoffman </span></font></div></div>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>http://www.fsr.net <br>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>=======================================================</blockquote><br> 



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