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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, after giving the Big Deals program a
little more thought I do see a way it could be turned into an effective teaching
tool. Take the entire MSD operating budget (include federal monies as well as
funds for boondoggles such as Head Start, DARE, USDA school lunch programs,
Diversity training, etc. Every nickel spent directly or indirectly on education)
and divide it up equally amongst all the youth in the district and
then let them take it where they will get the most bang for their buck. St.
Mary's, Logos or back home to their parents. Those who feel that MSD is the
pinnacle of education can take it there and receive their kickback.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In response to Donovan and his comment "<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>If teachers have to go, it should be the
ones that perform worst. That is the way the real world works." <FONT face=Arial
size=2>The real world and the world where teachers unions exist do not even
share the same time/space continuum. In NEA/IEA land deadwood floats,
administration bloats, and union officials gloat. There only connection to the
world you and I live in is through the pipeline we pass them a large and ever
increasing portion of our paychecks.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] What about the
kids? (was Weitz is acivicterrorist??</DIV>
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<DIV>No more "Big Deals (a quarterly incentive program used by some
teachers to encourage good behavior, performance, etc."</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What? So not only do I have to fork
over my hard earned to pay for teachers and too many administrators but now I
also have to pay to keep kids in the seats via a monetary pay out also
commonly referred to as a bribe? When did this become an effective teaching
tool? Apparently the MSD employees won't be happy till they get the class
sizes down to four per teacher and the quartet that shows up is paid
a living wage. Enough already!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom
Ivie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] What about
the kids? (was Weitz is a civicterrorist??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>It also has required the school district to freeze all
funds. That means no field trips, Big Deals (a quarterly incentive
program used by some teachers to encourage good behavior, performance,
etc.), and no contracts for teachers with 1-3 yrs experience. Luckily,
the school district's lawyer is from the firm that has written the book on
education law in Idaho, literally; The Law of Education in Idaho by
Anderson, Julian & Hull, LLP. Unfortunately, it negatively affects
the kids NOW. Any donation to your local public school or class of
choice would probably be well accepted for those end of the year
activities. <BR><BR>Something else that concerns me is that the three
names that have been cited in connection with this attack on our school
district (Jerry Weitz, Jim Demeeleer, and Brian Thie) are all listed on the
"leadership" of the Greater Moscow Alliance. Does this action
represent the "Alliance" or is it just a coincidence. I would add that
I would be just as critical or at least question it if the same happened in
regards with the Moscow Civic Association. I don't happen to be a
member of either group. They say that business and politics don't
mix. There is a good reason; you can lose business!<BR><BR><B><I>Bill
London <london@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your question: "<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>If Dr. Weitz's claim has no legal merit, then why would MSD have
any concern?"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>my response: a huge amount of administrative time and a sizable chunk
of money (as in paid by local taxes to the district) will have to be used
to fight this suit. Of course the district, and its patrons, are
concerned.</DIV>
<DIV>BL</DIV>
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<A title=vpschwaller@gmail.com href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">Glenn
Schwaller</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:10 PM</DIV>
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[Vision2020] Weitz is a civic terrorist?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Ms. Emerinemix,<BR><BR>I don't know if there is any merit
to Dr. Weitz's claim. I believe that the foundation for any
argument is "is this position valid?" With something as
complex and potentially dangerous and damaging as the illlegality of a
tax-based ballot measure, I have no problem with someone questions its
validity. Dr. Weitz has wisely chosen to use the law to determine
if his claim has merit. Many will discount this as "frivolity" and
cite a laundry list of reasons based on gut-wrenching emotion (oh the
poor kids! The poor teachers! The poor administration!) and
avoid considering a more insidious outcome of allowing a group to
unfairly and inappropriately tax the public for whatever it is they want
(be it schools, roads, parks, athletic centers). This potentially
could set a precedence by which any group could do the same thing.
If Dr. Weitz's claim has no legal merit, then why would MSD have any
concern? I for one would rather see the law surrounding this issue
clearly delineated than to see some other, possibly more unsavory group,
use the same tactics to fund their particular
interest.<BR><BR>Schwaller<BR><BR>"The bigger they are, the harder they
fall on you"<BR> Mark Knopfler<BR>
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