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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3>In the following the word "slander" is used since
it occurred earlier in thread, although the correct term is most likely "libel"
since we are referring to published material on the internet. The initial
and continued use of "slander" for "libel" terms does not affect the
gist of the arguments below.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Gary writes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>"Slander, being a legal term, would be easy
for you to prove to me by showing me the judgment that the court rendered in
your favor."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3>There are at least three problems with this
absurd position. Gary has used this ruse before, so maybe I should risk
wasting a little time to expose it, although such exposure will be unlikely to
make even an Angstrom Unit of change in Gary's "<EM>The Art of
Deception</EM>" dialectical habits.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3><STRONG>A.</STRONG> <FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2>"Slander, being a legal term..."<FONT color=#000000>
This is a classic example of the Persuasive Definition
Fallacy.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persuasive_definition">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persuasive_definition</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"A <B>persuasive definition</B> is a form of <A title=Definition
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition">definition</A> which purports to
describe the 'true' or 'commonly accepted' meaning of a term, while in reality
stipulating an uncommon or altered use, usually to support an argument for some
view, or to create or alter rights, duties or crimes. The terms thus defined
will often involve emotionally charged but imprecise notions, such as "freedom",
"terrorism", "democracy" etc...."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Example: No <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>true patriot</FONT></STRONG> would ever criticize President Bush
for his decisions with respect to Iraq.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>There are contexts where
slander is used in its legal sense. However, it is quite clear that Keely
was using it in the more general sense:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=3><STRONG>slander</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">
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<TD class=DEFINITION width=17><B><FONT color=#0000ff>1. </FONT></B></TD>
<TD class=DEFINITION style="PADDING-LEFT: 1pt"><FONT
color=#0000ff><B>saying of something false and damaging: </B>the act or
offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's
reputation</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 7.5pt" vAlign=top>
<TD class=DEFINITION width=17><B><FONT color=#0000ff>2. </FONT></B></TD>
<TD class=DEFINITION style="PADDING-LEFT: 1pt"><FONT
color=#0000ff><B>false and damaging statement: </B>a false and malicious
statement that damages somebody's reputation</FONT></TD></TR>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></B><!--EndFragment--></P></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT color=#0000ff>Microsoft® Encarta® 2007.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Hence, the clear use by
Gary of a "persuasive definition" of the word "slander."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana
size=3><STRONG>B.</STRONG> <FONT color=#0000ff>"</FONT>...<FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>would be easy for you to prove to me by showing me the
judgment that the court rendered in your favor." <FONT
color=#000000>Even if the meaning of the word "slander" is restricted to its
simple legal meaning:</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>1. </STRONG><I>Law</I>
Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's
reputation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>the fact that no court
judgment has been issued, does not mean that slander in its legal sense has not
occurred. Almost all instances of slander in its legal
sense never see the any judicial proceeding for a large variety of
reasons. Even in its legal sense, the question of whether slander occurred
is more complicated. For example, even if false and damaging statements
are made, they may not rise to the level of legal slander, although they would
certainly meet the criteria of the word "slander" used in its general sense
above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3><STRONG>A/B.
</STRONG>An example illustrating the above:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>In a Vision 2020 Post,
Douglas Stambler alleged that Douglas Wilson, so-called pastor of Christ Church,
sexually molested young boys. If this allegation is false, then did
Stambler slander Wilson?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Since, there has been no
judicial proceeding on this matter (reader's are left to speculate why), there
has been no court judgment issued. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Under Gary's view, then
even if the allegation is false, Wilson has not been slandered. Reader's
can be the judge, but I would guess that if the Stambler's allegation is false,
I think most of us would agree that Wilson was slandered. Perhaps Gary can
ask Wilson if he thought that he was slandered by Stambler's remarks the next
time Wilson visits The Lock Shop.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana
size=3><STRONG>C.</STRONG> The use of the persuasive definition of
"slander" and its attendant fallacy by Gary is so clear that for most reader's
my above notes are hardly necessary. But one is left to speculate why Gary
would make such absurd statements.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Is it
because:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3>1. Gary is such a fool, that he cannot see the
absurdity of his statements?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3> or</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3>2. Gary knows he is running a ruse? In that case
we are left to conclude he is a phony and a liar, and not to be taken as a
serious, honest defender of various viewpoints.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=3>One could continue
to analyze the rest of Gary's response to Keely with its several fallacies, some
of them linguistic, but little would be gained for the time investment
required.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>When it comes to
political or ideological viewpoints, there has yet to be developed a method to
separate the true from the false (if that is even possible). Such things
are always subject to debate at this point, but sometimes progress toward mutual
agreement is made. Misleading ruses, absurdities, evasions,
etc obscure and stifle rather than forward progress toward agreement
in these areas. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>Perhaps Gary could make
himself a much better defender of his viewpoints (or might possibly, though very
improbably, change them a little) if he were to take a well designed logic (not
rhetoric) course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV><FONT
face=Verdana size=3>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box
9421<BR>Moscow, ID 83843</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">(208) 882-7975<BR><A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3></FONT><FONT
face=Verdana size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
size=3><FONT> </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely
emerinemix</A> ; <A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art
Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] It's not "cyberstalking" unless you harass
someone,</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Keely, the remarks I made with regard to Rose's blog were
quoted verbatim from mail that she sent to me on the subject. I took no
editorial license, just straight from the horses mouth. (note the quotation
marks)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Slander, being a legal term, would be easy for you to
prove to me by showing me the judgment that the court rendered in your favor.
Baring that its just a disagreement concerning the facts. Snide and nasty are in
the eye of the beholder. Being mocked is something big girls simply deal with.
If you're going to have an opinion and attempt to inflict it on the world you
can expect for people to take exception. Are you trying to get me and the rest
of the fine folks here on the V to believe that you have never displayed any of
the qualities that you accuse Dale of? Never been a little snarky, a little
mean? Never fudged the facts to present your position in its most favorable
light? Don't even bother to answer, I'm sure we all know. You're human, despite
your attempts to have us believe otherwise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@adelphia.net
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g. crabtree</A> ; <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] It's not
"cyberstalking" unless you harass someone,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Ummm, hey? Gary? Rose's blog says she allows
comments. Just not bigoted ones. She gets to decide.<BR><BR>Also,
while we're on topic here, I can assure you, as someone slandered and mocked
by Dale Courtney quite regularly over the last four years, his is not about
news with a modicum of commentary. It's just nasty and snide, with a
modicum of respect for actual facts.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR>
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<HR>
From: <A href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">jampot@adelphia.net</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Date: Sat,
5 May 2007 10:29:30 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It's not
"cyberstalking" unless you harass someone,<BR><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My goodness, Wayne all those years of bottled
up spleen are certainly making themselves apparent in today's posting aren't
they? (what is it now, 101? You don't look a day over 98 but you are a
testament to the notion that old and grumpy do go hand in hand) Lets address
your little hissy fit in the order that you excreted it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You take me to task for the
sentence:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>"Apparently it's more fun
to simply broadcast your irrefutable wisdom to the world and not have to
deal with the unpleasantness of actual debate."</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. Courtney's blog is a news/items of
interest site with a modicum of commentary tossed in on the side. Not
screeds and lengthy personnel political rants. A greatly appreciated aspect
to his using this format is that items of interest to him are not
directed to and clogging up the greater groups inbox unlike certain others
who shall remain nameless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In my memory of Dale's posts to the V he did a
fine job of expressing and defending his view points, as did Rose. The
difference was that Dale was the lone mongoose in the viper pit and Rose
sang with the choir. I perfectly understand how being the minority
voice can become tiresome and, eventually, not worth the effort. In
conversations I have had with Dale I have done my best, sorry as it is, to
convince and encourage him to rejoin the fray. Lord knows I would
enjoy an additional conservative voice here to help sing the
counterpoint to the rest of ya'lls dreary dirge. Do I have "distain and
censure" for Rose and her new endeavor? Not hardly, I'm not wild about the
fact that it doesn't allow for comments (as Dale's does) but I have been
assured that this is but a temporary thing and will change "soon." I have
been informed that comments must fall within "appropriate parameters" and
this IS a type of censorship I'm not particularly fond of. I truly fail
to see how anything I have posted might be construed as being in favor of
limiting anyone's free expression. You seem to be laboring under the
erroneous and fatuous assumption that Rose and I are enemies of
some sort. Nothing could be further from the truth. We get on rather well,
all things considered and I wish her nothing but the best in
her latest whimsy and I hope that it doesn't suffer the same
ignoble fate that lil' Joannie's did.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Whether I have "exhibited yourself for all to
see as a phony" is for others to decide. What I have been trying to express
is my contention that more light (and heat) is shed in an unmediated,
unrestrained setting and that it's the venue that I, personally prefer (even
if it means having to endure silly fonts & unrestrained use of
color) for hashing out the topics de jour as opposed to having to listen
(read) someone hold forth ad nauseum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now hows about you have yourself a nice little
nap and try and get a little more fiber in your diet and see if your cranky
and constipated outlook don't take a remarkable turn for the better. At your
advanced age you shouldn't get so agitated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, May 04, 2007 10:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] It's not "cyberstalking" unless you harass someone,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Well, Gary,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am surprised that you have the stupidity to mention and to champion
Dale Courtney's web-blots so soon after you wrote the following about Rose
Huskey and others:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>"Apparently it's more fun to simply broadcast
your irrefutable wisdom to the world and not have to deal with the
unpleasantness of actual debate."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Are you too busy playing with your keys to see that Courtney runs his
own web-blots in part because he was not able to effectively defend his
positions on V 2020, and so that he may remove comments that he doesn't
like, or remove comments that point out where he either misquotes, quotes
out of context, or quotes incompletely to give the wrong impression.
It's all right for Dale Courtney, but not for Rose Huskey?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Further, you pretended a few days ago to be staunchly anti-censorship
and a true defender of freedom of speech <FONT
color=#0000ff>"Censorship sucks"</FONT> were your words. Now you
express disdain and censure for those who dare, like your hero
Courtney, to express themselves in a blog - a decidedly
anti-free-expression position on your part.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You sir, have just exhibited yourself for all to see as a phony,
whose writings express a desire to control what others say and do almost
as much as do the cultmaster's!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow,
ID 83843</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>(208) 882-7975<BR><A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">-----
Original Message -----
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@adelphia.net href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=heirdoug@netscape.net
href="mailto:heirdoug@netscape.net">heirdoug@netscape.net</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 04, 2007 7:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] It's not "cyberstalking" unless you
harass someone,</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know I'm probably going to regret this but
my curiosity is hopelessly piqued. Just exactly what action did you take
that would serve as a shining example for others to emulate? Is it the
thinly veiled vulgarities in your post? Is it maintaining a hate web site
against a small local protestant congregation? Is it endlessly posting of
news tidbits that you think should be of interest to others? Is it your
tireless and constant monitoring of Dale Courtney's web site? I'd
really like to know what it is so I could thank you properly for your
ongoing good works. (once their identified)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">-----
Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>From:</B>
<A title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom
Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=heirdoug@netscape.net
href="mailto:heirdoug@netscape.net">heirdoug@netscape.net</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, May 04, 2007 5:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] It's not "cyberstalking" unless you harass
someone,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=EC_Section1>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">No-Clue
–</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You keep
submitting gutless threats. Is that all there is to you? My
guess is “Yes”.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am going to
repeat a comment I made to you a long time ago:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“SH*T OR GET
THE HELL OFF THE POT!”</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Loosely
translated that means: Be a FRIGGIN’ man for once in your
spineless, ignorantly childish life! Crawl out from under that
rock of yours and DO SOMETHING. Either take action or SHUT the EFF
UP!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have set an
example for you to follow when I took action in the past (and will
continue to do so in the future).</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jeesh!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom
Hansen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,
Idaho</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">“Uh, how about a
1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a Level-3 sex
offender.”<BR><BR>- Dale “Comb-Over” Courtney (August 3,
2005)<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>heirdoug@netscape.net<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:17
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Vision2020] It's not
"cyberstalking" unless you harass someone,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And I quote, ".... course of conduct constitute
an implied threat."</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Wow J.,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That would have to be the best example of point
proving since <SPAN class=EC_correction><SPAN
id=EC_>Joan's</SPAN></SPAN> "jack-boot-vasectomy-<SPAN
class=EC_correction><SPAN id=EC_>procedure"</SPAN></SPAN> from many
months past.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">There is nothing like being the poster girl for
the Intoleristas! Is there.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">D.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'd tell you go do yourself, but you'd have to grow some first. Which isn't </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">about to happen this late in the game, now is it?</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The end.</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">J :]</SPAN></FONT></PRE>
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