I didn't see anything in the News concerning his probationary stint. Maybe there will be something tonight. I was going to attend the court session on Friday, but a delay pushed things forward into another time commitment. His car is no longer in the courthouse parking lot so one can assume he as been release to District 2 Probation and Parole supervision.
<br><br>If there is a dearth of "good investigative reporters" in the Quad-City region, (maybe it's not the reporters but supervision editors??) I suspect one could always phone the Lewiston television station and tell them of a "news story that may be of value to the general population" - ditto for the Spokane stations. They do post stories and photos of offenders recently released into the Spokane area - maybe even to other areas if someone lets the cat out of the bag.
<br><br>I guess time will tell the full story as it transpires. I suppose one could always call P & P and voice one's concerns to the resident corrections people in Moscow. I suspect they like to keep on top of what the locals think and would like to know.
<br><br>Schwaller<br><br>"You can always see it coming but you can never stop it."<br> Michael Timmins<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Saundra Lund</b> <<a href="mailto:sslund@roadrunner.com">
sslund@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Wayne, Keely, et al,<br><br>Did anyone see anything about Sitler's court review in today's Snooze? I
<br>didn't, but it's possible I missed it. How about in the Trib (I don't<br>subscribe to it)?<br><br>You wrote:<br>"Yes, an good investigative reporter could shed some light on this . . . "<br><br>
I don't know about the Trib, but to use "investigative reporter" (let alone<br>"good investigative reporter") and "Moscow-Pullman Daily News" in the same<br>sentence is an apparent oxymoron these days. I remember way back when that
<br>wasn't the case (I started subscribing back in 1988), but the Daily News has<br>become the Daily Snooze and has been floundering as a news source for quite<br>awhile, I'm sorry to say & IMHO. I don't know what the problem is, but I
<br>sure wish they'd get it figured out! Keely made some excellent points in<br>her post, and since she's well versed in journalism, I'll defer to her.<br><br>Wayne, you wrote:<br>"When the local major newspapers trumpet the views of child molestation
<br>enablers/fosterers/concealers but not of the victims, and when they fail to<br>warn the community of the insidious threat to their children, there is<br>something very wrong that only a through housecleaning would change."
<br><br>Again, I don't know what the problem is, but there *is* a problem. It is<br>absolutely unfathomable to me that *both* the Trib & the Snooze completely<br>dropped the ball on the Sitler case . . . and apparently continue to drop
<br>the ball.<br><br>After all, we've read the incessant bloated whining time and again in those<br>very rags all about how Kirkers (including NSA students who maintain<br>membership in their home churches) are integrated "good neighbor" members of
<br>this community. Either that's a pack of lies or this serial pedophile was a<br>risk to every child in our community, and the newspapers failed *miserably*<br>-- and continue to fail miserably -- in their duty to report the news.
<br><br>Further, I'll remind folks of what I think is a salient fact: the Kirker<br>community reportedly *was* warned about Sitler's predation *months and<br>months* before the rest of us. And, they *didn't* share their knowledge of
<br>the danger with the rest of us :-( Seemingly, they cared more about their<br>reputation than about the safety of *all* the children in our community --<br>that's not what I'd consider good neighbors. Remember, this predator didn't
<br>live a cloistered existence within our community between September 2003 and<br>March 2005 -- he was out & about without supervision because no one knew.<br>But, once his sexual victimization *did* become known, the Kirk kept it a
<br>secret from the rest of us without regard for all the children in this<br>community.<br><br>That's bad enough, but this selfishness was compounded by our local<br>newspapers (and I use the term loosely) failing miserably to do what we
<br>subscribers pay them to do: report local (and other) news.<br><br>And, quite frankly, one has to wonder why? If one looks at some of the<br>so-called "news" items that graced the pages of the Snooze from the time
<br>Sitler's crimes became known until the rest of us found out, one has to<br>wonder if the Snooze has any clue whatsoever as to what "news" is? I'm<br>interested in lots of things, but for me, safety issues trump everything
<br>else, particularly safety as it relates to our children. And, I know I'm<br>not alone: I've not spoken to one single non-Kirker who doesn't agree that<br>our newspapers failed miserably on the Sitler case.
<br><br>Certainly, from the time Doug Wilson first learned in March 2005 about<br>Sitler's serial sexual abuse of children in our community until the time the<br>rest of us learned about it in June 2006, Wilson was no shrinking violet
<br>with the press. His bloated whining -- and that of his cohorts -- appeared<br>frequently and loudly in the local press (doesn't that sound better than<br>calling them newspapers?) on a wide range of topics. Yet he completely
<br>failed to mention his dirty little secret, and because we don't have a<br>newspaper worth the ink & paper it takes to print it, the dirty little<br>secret that should have been front page safety news remained Wilson's & the
<br>Kirk's private dirty little secret.<br><br>Indeed, during the time in question, the Snooze gave Doug Wilson his very<br>own guest column! Did Wilson use that opportunity to sound the alarm? Of<br>course not! It was more important for him to spew rhetoric, twist
<br>Christanity, call names, and attack the critics who don't share his<br>particular twist on Christianity or his worldview than to protect our<br>community's children. It would be several more months before he even
<br>sounded the alarm to the rank-and-file members of his own church. And,<br>because the Snooze was, in fact, snoozing, Wilson was allowed to keep his<br>dirty little secret.<br><br>Now that the dirty little secret has seen the light of day, and in light of
<br>what we now know about who knew what when -- and what *should* have been<br>reported by any local newspaper worth its salt -- I think some might find it<br>enlightening to see exactly what Wilson chose to write about -- and what the
<br>Daily News published -- back in June, 2005, three months after Wilson knew<br>of Sitler's repeated victimization of children in our community. For your<br>re-reading pleasure:<br><br>"Lambs and geese, foxes and wolves
<br>Column, Doug Wilson<br>Saturday, June 18, 2005 - Page Updated at 12:00:00 AM<br><br>If I might, I would like to briefly respond to Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund,<br>who served up a veritable casserole of charges to your readers on Saturday
<br>last (Opinion, June 11 & 12). This is hard to respond to in the space of<br>just 700 words because charges can always be raised with relative economy of<br>scale. "Scoundrel, liar and cheat" only takes four words, and it almost
<br>always takes more than four words to answer once the mud-gobbing has begun.<br><br>Anyone who has followed the vituperation poured out on our church over the<br>last several years in places like Venom 2020 knows that this whole
<br>controversy is not a simple matter of a couple of nice ladies trying to get<br>some "renegade church" to obey the law. Because of that, the headline of<br>that column is the main thing I would like to respond to "When the Fox
<br>Preaches, Watch Out for the Geese."<br><br>When Jesus commissioned his disciples, he ordained them to something that<br>was almost the exact opposite of this. He said that he was sending his<br>preachers out as lambs among wolves (Luke 10:3). To use the metaphor of
<br>Saturday's column, he was sending the goose to preach to the foxes.<br><br>Why would the Lord use this kind of image? What is the nature of lambs? What<br>is the nature of wolves? One of the most obvious differences is that lambs
<br>are in no position to try to coerce anyone to do anything. Still less are<br>they in a position to compel wolves to do anything. But wolves do not think<br>the same way. They have no scruples about imposing their view of the world,
<br>or their view of lunch, on the lambs.<br><br>Everything that Huskey and Lund point to as examples of our ecclesiastical<br>misdeeds are actually examples of voluntary transactions, freely entered<br>into. From enrollment in New Saint Andrews College, to boarding
<br>arrangements, to attendance at Christ Church, what we have is a group of<br>peaceful, law-abiding people, working hard to mind their own businesses,<br>love their own families, and improve their community. Attempted harassment
<br>through governmental or "legal" channels has been the order of the day (nine<br>such attempts so far). These attacks come from individuals with a private<br>set of personal or ideological grudges and too much time on their hands. I
<br>am not counting the petty vandalisms in the private sector and other<br>periodic manifestations of spite. Further, in the eyes of our accusers, to<br>point any of this out is to be guilty of "whining," which is hopefully not
<br>the evaluation they would offer if we were black or Jewish and getting the<br>same treatment. The Intoleristas have certainly lived up to their nickname.<br><br>This illustrates the difference between freedom and coercion. The reason
<br>believing Christians love freedom the way we do is because God has promised<br>us that "where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Cor. 3:17).<br>We are not interested in trying to force those who differ with us to do
<br>anything. They, on the other hand, are not shy at all about the free and<br>liberal use of coercion. In saying this, I am not talking about laws we all<br>must live by. This whole controversy has been driven, first, by
<br>misunderstanding the law, and second, highly selective and discriminatory<br>applications of those misunderstandings to our ministries alone.<br><br>The confusion on this is so pronounced that it cannot be accounted for by
<br>appealing to mere political differences. There are only two fundamental ways<br>to walk in the world -- the way the Lord showed us or our own autonomous<br>way, the way of unbelief. Genuine faith in God the Father through Jesus
<br>Christ always leads us into the law of liberty. Rejection of God's<br>sovereignty, and of his kindness to us through the death of Jesus Christ,<br>leads necessarily into patterns of coercive attempts to run the lives of
<br>others. And if those others dare to differ, then the attempts are ramped up<br>to run the dissenters out of town. What else could "Not In Our Town" mean?<br>But the Lord Jesus died on the cross, was buried, and rose again from the
<br>dead on the third day in order to demonstrate that the way of the Lamb<br>triumphs over the way of the wolves.<br><br>Doug Wilson is the pastor of Christ Church in Moscow."<br><br>Indeed!<br><br>How very desperate Wilson must have been to keep his dirty little secret at
<br>the cost of the safety of our community's children. His unchristian attacks<br>on those who chose to challenge him during that time make a lot more sense<br>now, don't they? And, how very desperate he must remain that we all forget
<br>about Sitler . . . and about Wight, one of the Kirk's then-Golden Young Men.<br><br>How very desperate the Moscow-Pullman Daily News must be for us all to<br>forget that it missed -- or perhaps buried -- the story all the while giving
<br>Wilson plenty of ink on anything else his heart desired.<br><br>And, how very desperate the Daily News must be for us all not notice that it<br>continues to miss -- or bury -- the story.<br><br>A more skeptical yet still reasonable person might question whether the
<br>Daily News has reason to continue to miss -- or bury -- the story? It<br>certainly would be beneath contempt for the Snooze to turn a blind eye<br>simply to protect its income from those parking space it rents to Wilson's
<br>New St. Andrews . . .<br><br>Oh, and as long as I'm cc'ing Nathan Alford on this, I'll add that I didn't<br>appreciate the spate of blank emails (a dozen or so in all) your newspaper<br>sent to my email address on Thursday! Geez -- what was that about?!?! I
<br>responded to the first asking what was up, and I'm *still* waiting for an<br>answer. As they continued and continued and continued to fill my inbox, I<br>tried calling as well. Of course, no one was available to answer my
<br>questions or make it stop.<br><br><br>Saundra Lund<br>Moscow, ID<br><br>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<br>nothing.<br>- Edmund Burke<br><br>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006 through life plus
<br>70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside<br>the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the<br>author.*****<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Art Deco<br>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:37 AM<br>To: Vision 2020<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions for you legal eagles
<br><br>Keely, et al,<br><br>During the time when this debauchery of justice was more active, the only<br>press coverage by those wonderful community newspapers, the Daily News and<br>the Lewiston Morning Tribune was only one significant article.
<br><br>That article was a spoon-fed, whine-baby complaint from Cultmaster Douglas<br>Wilson and No Saints Around Headmaster Roy Atwood. The article told of the<br>alleged great woes that the publicity from Steven Sitler's and Jamin Wight's
<br>actions were causing the cult and NSA.<br><br>Yes, an good investigative reporter could shed some light on this case<br>especially with material that could be supplied to the reporter. Not only<br>would the more creepy aspects of the principals' actions be brought to light
<br>and serve as a warning/wake-up call to the community, but other aspects of<br>these matters including obstruction of justice and the failure of all parts<br>of the local criminal justice system to handle this matter correctly and
<br>with appropriate justice would be exposed.<br><br>That these wonderful, community minded newspapers failed to report on these<br>sexual abuse/exploitation cases from the beginning, but only reported upon<br>the alleged sufferings of the principal enablers/fosterers/concealers, but
<br>not upon the sufferings of the many victims, should answer your implied<br>questions. It is doubtful that the local newspapers have the interest,<br>inclination, and courage to run a series on child/neglect as the<br>
Spokesman-Review has just done. Quite the opposite is most likely the case.<br><br><br>When the local major newspapers trumpet the views of child molestation<br>enablers/fosterers/concealers but not of the victims, and when they fail to
<br>warn the community of the insidious threat to their children, there is<br>something very wrong that only a through housecleaning would change.<br>Unfortunately at this time, brooms, mops, carbolic acid, and journalistic
<br>ethics are not available at either the Daily News or the Lewiston Morning<br>Tribune.<br><br><br>Wayne A. Fox<br>1009 Karen Lane<br>PO Box 9421<br>Moscow, ID 83843<br><br>(208) 882-7975<br><a href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">
waf@moscow.com</a><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: keely emerinemix <mailto:<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>><br>To: Glenn Schwaller <mailto:<a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">
vpschwaller@gmail.com</a>> ; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:20 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions for you legal eagles<br><br>Referring to Mr. Schwaller's Point #5 --
<br><br>Yes, that is sad. Perhaps even inexcusable. The answers to these and many<br>other questions strike me as the sort of thing that ought to be covered by<br>your local daily newspaper. Maybe we'll see the answers in tomorrow's
<br>story.<br><br>Anyone? Anyone?<br><br>keely<br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:51:34 -0700<br> From: <a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com
</a><br> To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br> Subject: [Vision2020] Questions for you legal eagles<br><br> 1. I suspect one will find out if the No Contact Order will be in
<br>effect at today's hearing. Again, this will fall under P&P's jurisdiction<br>as well.<br><br> 2. I'm not sure if there will be "national publicity" on this case<br>one way or the other. Seems like there is enough of a problem getting the
<br>MPD News to pick up anything of importance going on in the community . . .<br><br> 3. I'm sure if the court was not aware of the "trophy website"<br>then, they are now. A good point on why they or law enforcement was not
<br>aware of it at the time. Seems like unless the MPD or LCSD is handed the<br>weapon in a murder, they can't seem to find it so I suspect the web site was<br>unknown to them.<br><br> 4. I guess one would have to make inquiries to the Prosecuting
<br>Attorney's office and/or the court to find out what was going on in the plea<br>bargain.<br><br> 5. All very good questions - sort of sad we don't have a good<br>investigative reporter in the region that could answer these and other
<br>questions in a neutral manner.<br><br> Schwaller<br><br><br><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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