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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=921322903-02052007>The
development along east 3rd, with the knowledge of a future vehicular bridge, was
poorly done. To try and mitigate that problem by omitting the bridge will
cause more future problems. <SPAN class=921322903-02052007>A
pedestrian-only bridge at 3rd & Mt. View is just a bad
idea.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=921322903-02052007><SPAN
class=921322903-02052007></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=921322903-02052007><SPAN
class=921322903-02052007><SPAN class=921322903-02052007>A pedestrian-only bridge
at west 3rd is a polar-opposite good idea that <U>has</U> to happen and
should be of higher priority for timing and
funding.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=921322903-02052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: agency fb">mark r. seman, architect</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Tom Ivie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:58
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] 3rd
St. Pedestrian Bridge<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Excellent point
Donovan.<BR><BR>Michael Kyte, Director of the National Institute for Advanced
Transportation Technology (NIATT) and member of the Transportation Research
Board's Committee on Highway Capacity and Quality of Service has timed the
difference of the two routes to be less than one minute. By putting in a
vehicular bridge, a driver would save less than one minute.
<BR><BR>Third Street is the flattest East/West Route and it makes sense to
have a pedestrian bridge for pedestrians and bicyclists. <BR>
<DIV class=MsoNormal>Mitigation is an interesting word. The need for
mitigation only exists when a project or situation creates a problem(s) most
often that cause harm to an individual, group, environment, or species.
Mitigation can be seen as any effort to try and prevent negative
effects. Why go forward with a project or situation that causes harm? It
differs from other measures because it specifically deals with risk. A
precursor activity to the mitigation is the identification of<U>
risks.</U> <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal>What are the risks involved for pedestrians, bicyclists,
a neighborhood, and vehicles with a vehicular bridge vs. a pedestrian bridge?
(both with and without both of these)<BR></DIV>The following is some
background on the pedestrian bridge idea and it's origins. (for those that
aren't familiar with it or who believe it was an effort to circumvent the
vehicle bridge).
<DIV class=MsoNormal>The folks from <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Moscow</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>'s Paradise Path (part of Moscow's
Parks & Rec) brought some consultant/ organizers from City Repair of
Portland to a workshop on Sept 10, 2005. After a presentation and
brainstorming session, attendees at the workshop identified places in
<ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Moscow</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> that
might be candidates for City Repair's ideas of<SPAN style="COLOR: black">
people reclaiming their urban spaces to create community-oriented places.
These places were:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<UL type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal>Deadman's Hill (Adams, from B to C streets)<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal>F Street Hill<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal>West entrance to <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Moscow</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY><O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal>Hwy 95 & Hwy 8 Intersection<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal><ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">Harrison
St</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> right of way south of Hwy 8 (connection to
<ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on">Berman</ST1:PLACENAME>
<ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on">Creekside</ST1:PLACENAME> <ST1:PLACETYPE
w:st="on">Park</ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE>) <O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal>3rd St Crossing of Paradise Creek<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal>Travois Way Linear Park<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal><ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">D
Street</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> and Mt View Intersection<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal><ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">F
Street</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> and Mt View Intersection<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Taylor</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> and Lauder Intersection<O:P></O:P>
<LI class=MsoNormal><ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on">A
Street</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> and <ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS
w:st="on">Main Street</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> Triangle<O:P></O:P></LI></UL>
<DIV>From these, three were picked by the group (West Entrance to <ST1:CITY
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Moscow</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>, Intersection Of
Hwys95and8, 3rd St Crossing) for further brainstorming.</DIV>
<DIV>For more information about City Repair please visit their website
http://www.cityrepair.org<BR><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><BR></DIV><BR><B><I>Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">
<DIV>The costs outweigh the gains of placing a vehicle bridge across the 3rd
Street and Mountain View intersection. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Think, what do you gain. You gain an access point, but to what and at
what costs to others.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Taking 3rd Street instead of D Street or 6th Street takes longer to get
to town. The width of the road, the right of way, positioning of stop signs,
pedestrian traffic, and other vehicle traffic makes using 3rd Street a
slower alternative. I suggest you drive this route:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joesph St. to Mountain View to 3rd Street. Time it. Then drive the
distance from the end of 3rd Street to downtown. Time that and add the times
together.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Next, drive from Joesph Street to 6th Street, then make a right
on Hayes, the a left on 3rd and follow it all the way downtown. You
will find it took you longer to drive the Mountain View Route.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The same is true with coming from the northeast side of town off
Dst Street. It is faster to take Dst and go left on 95 than it is to take
Mountain View and try to go right down 3rd Street. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are no houses on the other side of Mountain View where it would
be a quicker access point to use 3rd than either 6th or D streets. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The city would be creating another access point, but it would
not be a faster or safer route. So it seems like a weak argument
when you consider it would disrupt parking and reduce safety in the
neighborhood. Not to mention the environmental impact problems to the creek
and lightening of the taxpayers wallet. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would rather see a bridge across 3rd Street/Highway for safe passage
of students over the traffic. The City is working on the wrong end of the
street.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>Dan Carscallen <areaman@moscow.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Cynthia
asks:<BR>"Someone please explain to me WHY a pedestrian bridge is being
built at<BR>3rd St. Please try to convince me that it's not to, once and
for <BR>all, prevent an auto bridge from going there. What powerful people
in<BR>Moscow DON'T want that?"<BR><BR>>From what I heard at the
Administrative Committee meeting last Monday,<BR>if the placement of a
pedestrian bridge is to either the north or the<BR>south, it would not
preclude the future addition of a vehicular bridge<BR>in the future (a
vehicular bridge is a part of the Comprehensive Plan).<BR><BR>One must
realize there is some pretty vocal opposition to a vehicular<BR>bridge
there, which got it put on the back burner about a year and a<BR>half ago.
If a person is in favor of a vehicular bridge there (which I<BR>think
would work with some traffic mitigation), that person should make<BR>their
opinion known to the
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