<DIV>Andreas wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"I assume, then, that you would advocate for only allowing abortions<BR>performed in the manner specified in the Bible?"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nope, I don't even advocate for it back then either. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also believe thou shall not kill, even in cases where it is OK in the Bible.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I believe that grace, forgiveness, and love should be the motivation and reasoning for all of our actions. We don't, and I certainly fall far short of that requirement, but it should be what we strive for in all our activities and beliefs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is good to be wise, Andreas, but it is foolish to throw out the knowledge of God's love for the self serving reasoning of man. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No matter what justification or reasoning you assign for abortion, it is still a cruel violent act with only a selfish
purpose behind it. You cannot escape that fundamental fact. Selfishness and cruelty are NOT Christian acts. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><BR><BR><B><I>Andreas Schou <ophite@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On 4/27/07, Donovan Arnold <DONOVANJARNOLD2005@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR>> Reverend Keely,<BR>><BR>> While I agree that the writing was a bit graphic and that he shouldn't<BR>> proclaim someone is soulless, I suggest you reread your Bible, recheck with<BR>> your God, and study abortion procedures if you think that the description of<BR>> abortion is worse than those that ardently advocate for it in all forms and<BR>> situations as a fundamental right.<BR><BR>Donovan --<BR><BR>I assume, then, that you would advocate for only allowing abortions<BR>peformed in the manner specified in the
Bible?<BR><BR>11 The Lord spoke to Moses, saying:<BR>12 Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If any man's wife goes<BR>astray and is unfaithful to him,<BR>13 if a man has had intercourse with her but it is hidden from her<BR>husband, so that she is undetected though she has defiled herself, and<BR>there is no witness against her since she was not caught in the act;<BR>14 if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and he is jealous of his wife<BR>who has defiled herself; or if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and<BR>he is jealous of his wife, though she has not defiled herself;<BR>15 then the man shall bring his wife to the priest. And he shall bring<BR>the offering required for her, one-tenth of an ephah of barley flour.<BR>He shall pour no oil on it and put no frankincense on it, for it is a<BR>grain offering of jealousy, a grain offering of remembrance, bringing<BR>iniquity to remembrance.<BR>16 Then the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord;<BR>17
the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel, and take<BR>some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it<BR>into the water.<BR>18 The priest shall set the woman before the Lord, dishevel the<BR>woman's hair, and place in her hands the grain offering of<BR>remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. In his own hand<BR>the priest shall have the water of bitterness that brings the curse.<BR>19 Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, "If no man has<BR>lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under<BR>your husband's authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that<BR>brings the curse.<BR>20 But if you have gone astray while under your husband's authority,<BR>if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has<BR>had intercourse with you,"<BR>21 —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say<BR>to the woman—"the Lord make you an execration and an oath among
your<BR>people, when the Lord makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge;<BR>22 now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make<BR>your womb discharge, your uterus drop!" And the woman shall say,<BR>"Amen. Amen."<BR>23 Then the priest shall put these curses in writing, and wash them<BR>off into the water of bitterness.<BR>24 He shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings<BR>the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter her and<BR>cause bitter pain.<BR>25 The priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy out of the<BR>woman's hand, and shall elevate the grain offering before the Lord and<BR>bring it to the altar;<BR>26 and the priest shall take a handful of the grain offering, as its<BR>memorial portion, and turn it into smoke on the altar, and afterward<BR>shall make the woman drink the water.<BR>27 When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled<BR>herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, the
water that brings<BR>the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb<BR>shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an<BR>execration among her people.<BR>28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she<BR>shall be immune and be able to conceive children.<BR>29 This is the law in cases of jealousy, when a wife, while under her<BR>husband's authority, goes astray and defiles herself,<BR>30 or when a spirit of jealousy comes on a man and he is jealous of<BR>his wife; then he shall set the woman before the Lord, and the priest<BR>shall apply this entire law to her.<BR>31 The man shall be free from iniquity, but the woman shall bear her iniquity.<BR><BR>-- ACS<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net
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