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<DIV>Saundra,</DIV>
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<DIV>The message from Juanita Flores previously posted has relevance and
references for this issue also.</DIV>
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<DIV>W.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=news.of.christ.cult@gmail.com
href="mailto:news.of.christ.cult@gmail.com">News of Christ Cult</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=Vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 19, 2007 5:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Fantasy vs, Reality Second
Installment</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN><FONT size=4><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Fantasy:</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></B></FONT><B
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
<BR><BR><BR></SPAN>SOUTHERN SLAVERY, AS IT WAS</B><BR>Douglas J.
Wilson<BR><BR>Here are some excerpts from the booklet:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>* "To say the least, it is strange that the thing the Bible
condemns (slave-trading) brings very little opprobrium upon the North, yet
that which the Bible allows (slave-ownership) has brought down all manner of
condemnation upon the South." (page 22)<BR><BR>* "As we have already
mentioned, the 'peculiar institution' of slavery was not perfect or sinless,
but the reality was a far cry from the horrific descriptions given to us in
modern histories." (page 22)<BR><BR>* "Slavery as it existed in the South was
not an adversarial relationship with pervasive racial animosity. Because of
its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based upon mutual
affection and confidence." (page 24)<BR><BR>* "There has never been a
multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony
in the history of the world." (page 24)<BR><BR>* "Slave life was to them a
life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care."
(page 25)<BR><BR>* "But many Southern blacks supported the South because of
long established bonds of affection and trust that had been forged over
generations with their white masters and friends." (page 27)<BR><BR>* "Nearly
every slave in the South enjoyed a higher standard of living than the poor
whites of the South -- and had a much easier existence." (page
30)</BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Reality:<BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Bullwhip Days: The Slaves
Remember: An Oral History
</SPAN></FONT><BR><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Creator:</SPAN> <SPAN><A
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target=_blank> James Mellon</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Publisher:</SPAN> <SPAN><A
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target=_blank> Grove Press</A> </SPAN><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR></SPAN>Synopsis: </B>In an unflinching oral
history, former slaves eloquently describe their experiences in captivity and
portray the harsh conditions they faced in everyday life as slaves.<BR><FONT
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<SPAN><BR><BR></SPAN><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>The Bad, The Sad,
And The Extremely Ugly</SPAN> <SPAN>June 12,
2006</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>1 out of 1 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>This is the real deal. Ex-slaves telling their own
experiences; a few not-so-bad, many extremely heartbreaking. This is one of the
best insights into what slavery was really like during the 19th Century. This is
the story, in there own words, of how a people were totally dehumanized during
America's most shameful period. A country claiming "liberty and justice for all"
while denying that freedom to millions of fellow human beings. And many still
ask the question, "why do African-Americans still lag behind in so many areas,
while other ethnic groups had to struggle as immigrants also?" This book is a
reminder that blacks were forcibly brought here, and denied-for-years even the
simplest education. Maybe the reading of this book, will help some realize the
continual uphill struggle, blacks have tried to achieve in a few short decades
since the Civil Rights Movement. Trying to makeup for Centuries of bondage, and
inequality. Just as we can never forget the evils of the Holocaust, so it should
be equaly true with the era of slavery.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG
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<SPAN>The Slaves Own Words</SPAN> <SPAN>January 31,
2006</SPAN><BR> <SPAN> 1 out of 1 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN><BR>I have used this book as part of my Black
history classes for 5 years now. It would be impossible to make up the stories
that actually happened to a people held against their will and it is riveting to
read about the memories and nightmares. This book gives a name to slaves,
personalizes it and makes the suffering immortal. These recollections, though
they belonged to individuals, makes the suffering universal. The experience of
one is the experience of all. But yet, these people on occasion find some humor
in various memories and you can share there collective joy over 150 years later.
I highly recommend this book to anyone, not just students and
historians.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>"The Real
Deal"</SPAN> <SPAN> October 19, 2005</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>1
out of 1 found this review helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>I first read this book
back in 1991. Even today, I will occasionally reread it. It is very informative
and very much real. I can truly say that I love this book and this is a must
have. You will truly enjoy it. My people have come a long
way.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>Powerful &
Moving</SPAN> <SPAN>February 7, 2005 </SPAN><BR> <SPAN>1
out of 1 found this review helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>Wow...That's all I can
say. This is a wonderful book and a must read for everyone. I read this as part
of a book club discussion for Black History Month. What a way to open my eyes to
a part of American history. Very moving.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG
alt="5 out of 5 stars" src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif">
<SPAN>Telling it like it was</SPAN> <SPAN>December 26,
2002</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>3 out of 3 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>Forget Tara, forget Falconhurst... this was the real
deal. Based on the results of a U.S. Government project in the 1930's to capture
the memories of living former slaves on tape, this awesome book is the history
of slavery in the United States by those most qualified to tell it -- the blacks
who actually lived it. And by telling their stories, we live through it with
them; we feel what it must have been like to have your family members sold away
from you, to be forced into cohabitation with a fellow slave you despised for
the sole purpose of breeding new slaves, to be treated like a beast of burden,
and the crushing indignity of being a piece of property to be treated however
your master's whim takes him. The former slaves remembered it all, and their
reminiscences aren't pretty: "For miles around you could hear those dreadful
whuppins. They were a turrible part of livin'." We hear their voices through the
dark years of Reconstruction, which for many former slaves was escaping out of
one hell and landing into the next, and we hear the stark statement of one old
man who sums up the results of all his labor, paid and unpaid, over the decades:
"Ain't got nothin, ain't got nothin, ain't got nothin." And finally, we can only
wonder at the strength and resilience of so many who claimed their humanity
after so many years of being treated as something less than human, and who
managed to not only survive, but to keep on keepin' on.</SPAN><BR
clear=all><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>WHAT A
BOOK</SPAN> <SPAN>April 26, 2002</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>5 out
of 6 found this review helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>FOR SO LONG, I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT SLAVERY WAS LIKE. I'VE READ ABOUT IT IN BOOKS BUT THERE REALLY WAS NO
DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE ACTUAL SLAVES. THIS BOOK REALLY HELPED ME TO FEEL
THE DEVASTATION AND HUMILIATION OF THE AFRICAN SLAVE. IT HAS ALSO GIVEN ME A
DIFFERENT OUTLOOK ON WHO I AM AND WHERE MY PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM. LONG BEFORE
THIS BOOK I HAD DOUBTS ABOUT BEING AFRICAN. I DON'T MEAN AFRICAN AMERICAN.
AFRICAN! FROM THE TRAUMATIC STRUGGLE MY PEOPLE HAVE ENDURED HAS MADE ME REALIZE
THAT I WOULD BE SO IGNORANT TO CHANGE WHAT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME. I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE AUTHOR OF THIS BOOK FOR NOT CHANGING EVEN THE DIALECT OF THE
EX-SLAVES. IT REMINDS ME HOW FAR WE HAVE COME AND HOW FAR WE HAVEN'T. THERE IS
SO MUCH HEALING THAT HAS TO COME TO THE SO CALLED AFRICAN AMERICANS. READING
THIS BOOK, I REALIZE THAT I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE STILL IN THE
SAME STATE OF MIND. -MENTALLY ENSLAVED-</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG
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<SPAN>A MUST READ for EVERYBODY!!!</SPAN> <SPAN>February 27,
2002 </SPAN><BR> <SPAN>2 out of 2 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>This is a fat book which you don't have to read
cover to cover. You can skip around and read what real slaves said about raising
children, their white masters, their work, what they ate, how they celebrated,
how they worshiped, etc. This really tells what life was really like on
plantations. If you like this book I recommend I WAS BORN A SLAVE which is
similar. Two novels I recommend are THE DIARY OF A SLAVE GIRL, RUBY JO which
tells about pirates and how runaways sometimes joined pirate ships where they
were treated equally. Also, THE JOURNAL OF LEROY JONES, A FUGITIVE
SLAVE.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="4 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-4-0.gif"> <SPAN>As a teaching
aid</SPAN> <SPAN>May 10, 2000</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>4 out of 4
found this review helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>This book would make a wonderful
teaching aid. Its first hand accounts and lessons in perspective will draw in
the reader while reminding them that these are memories that should not soon be
forgotten. I have returned to this book several times and have recommended it (
with limited sucess ) to educators around the south and midwest. This book
should be in every high school library.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG
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<SPAN>From a White Woman's Perspective</SPAN> <SPAN> April 8,
2000</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>4 out of 6 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>As a wife of a black man (married 14 years), I am
constantly learning of the plight of african-americans and their culture in
order to better understand and share it with our four children. This book has
taught me more and moved me more than ANY OTHER book I have ever read on the
subject. The accounts are moving, the pictures are unforgettable, and the book
flows easily from one interview to the next. Every household in America with an
interest in the "slave days" of the U.S. should read this book and keep it to
pass on to their children.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>Wonderful
book</SPAN> <SPAN> October 1, 1999</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Great book
with a couple of really interesting pictures that make you do a lot of thinking
about that time in our nation's history.<BR><BR></SPAN><IMG
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<SPAN>I agree with the reviews below</SPAN> <SPAN> September
17, 1999</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>6 out of 7 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>I was astounded by this book. The interviews draw a
clear, persuasive picture that no dry history book ever could, no matter how
learned the author. I now feel as though I have an accurate view of what the
lives of slaves were like.
<P>I am pleased to see that not every slave owner was a monster and that not
every slave lived a life of continuous misery. The institution was terrible, of
course, and its continued existence so late in this country was a disgrace. Many
slave owners were brutes. However, this book illustrates the terrific capacity
of human beings to rise above their circumstances, especially of the oppressed,
but also of the oppressors.</P>
<P>I agree with every statement in all of the previous reviews, and I recommend
the book wholeheartedly.</P></SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>Excellent, People
come alive again through their experiences</SPAN> <SPAN>August
12, 1999</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>1 out of 1 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>This book is really superb. It puts a human face
with each story on an ugly period of American history. The good and the bad, the
funny and the quirky experiences are explained sincerely and realistically. The
best way to learn about history is through the voices of those who lived through
it so I consider this book a valuable document and a tribute to the human
spirit</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>The Most Neglected
Period in U.S. History Comes Alive</SPAN> <SPAN> September 21,
1998</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>4 out of 5 found this review
helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>You wouldn't believe my excitement upon discovering
this book at the local library. These are the voices of real slaves, their
histories recorded in the 1930's through a government project to collect this
data. What a true American gem. All the voices are transcribed in the "native"
language - Black English as spoken by ex-slaves, many of them at the time of
their stories being recorded nearly a hundred years old. The accounts are
fascinating, and non-biased. Some slaves speak frankly of wishing once again for
slavery, and they recount the generosity and attention of the "Old Marse".
Others tell horrific and moving stories of truly brutal and savage masters and
wouldn't want to return to "slave times" under any circumstance. Most of the
stories include first-hand accounts of their experiences through the Civil War
and Reconstruction, although the primary goal was to record their experiences
while slaves. Reconstruction of this country had enormous impact, and what the
slaves did to build the nation during it's early years has been such a neglected
historical topic. This is by far one of the most important books in my
collection. As a white 31-year old middle-class woman, this is a must-read for
anyone who might call themselves an American, regardless of
race.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><IMG alt="5 out of 5 stars"
src="http://thezeroboss.com/store/aom/stars-5-0.gif"> <SPAN>Experiences
described here will stay with you a long time.
</SPAN> <SPAN>September 14, 1998</SPAN><BR> <SPAN>3 out of
3 found this review helpful</SPAN><BR><BR><SPAN>This book will expand your mind
by exposing you to a set of emotions that are (presumably) no longer
experienced: how it feels to be owned. Your own emotions will run the gamut from
anger to sadness and back again, but it is worth it to hear about slavery from
people who experienced it. You will never again think about it in abstract terms
.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR>****************************************************************<BR><A
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2003<BR>
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beautiful, historical collection of slave narratives and photographs, we
are given a look inside the lives of actual slaves being interviewed as
part of a project conducted by the Works Progress Administration. With
more than forty interviews, UNCHAINED MEMORIES is a work of art that
provides a well-rounded look at the lives of slaves. It includes insight
into their living conditions, thoughts about slavery, their families and
even the details of actual slave auctions. It is a sometimes sad
collection, but much needed to help us understand the progress our
ancestors have made in the world.
<P>Through their accounts, we are able to see the pain and suffering as
well as the spirit and pride of those born into slavery, learn from it,
and pass it along to our children. This is a wonderful resource for not
only African American families, but for anyone interested in history and
the period of slavery and its impact upon the African American race. It is
compiled with the grace and dignity deserving of a people who have been
through so much!</P>
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hard to read. It is hard to wade through the cruelty.
<P>There are stories here of families being split apart by an uncaring
master class. Children were callously sold and permanently separated from
their parents. Husbands and wives were similarly split up.</P>
<P>Frankly, it makes you sick.</P>
<P>Then there are the stories of brutality. Again it makes you sick. How
could the slave owners have sunk so low?</P>
<P>If you are looking for well written stories that bring the institution
of slavery to life for you, this is not the book. What you get here are
very short and very simple reports by individuals. There's nothing here
that you didn't know already. This is not a great work of literature.</P>
<P>This is just a punch right in the nose to make you wonder how slave
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And before I'll be a slave, I'll be buried in my grave and go home to my
Lord and be free"<BR>__Old Negro Spiritual
<P>The words of the spiritual above must not have been uttered to these
beautiful human beings who have graciously allowed interviewers from the
1930's Governments Works Progress Administration to chronicle their life
stories. For if the words above had been uttered, the slave experience,
from an intimate and painful point of view, would never have received the
credence they due. Tales of slavery are still passed down from generation
to generation, and traditions still are followed but to see a book like
Unchained Memories is special. Quite simply, this is a beautiful book. I'm
so thrilled to have been given the opportunity to read it and experience
it and learn from it. I can treat the book as a textbook, a factual
accounting of the lives of former slaves who have wonderful stories that
they don't mind sharing with the world. For that reason alone, this book
has earned a permanent place on my coffee table, for all who enter into my
house to experience. Something about the actual words of former slaves
bound in book form validates an agonizing time in American History.</P>
<P>Unchained Memories is well researched and magnificently laid out. At
the beginning of every chapter is an introductory text that accounts for
the tenure of the time, followed by a poignant quote and then brief
narratives begin. My one regret is that the narratives are so short, when
biographers obviously spent a great deal of time with these people. I am
grateful that there is an extensive bibliography at the back so that I
can, at some point, go and read the entire account by the former slave. Oh
where will I find the time? If you read this book, I would highly suggest
that you get a copy of the HBO documentary of the same name and watch it
as well. There is nothing like "hearing" the words spoken by African
American actors of today in the vernacular of the time.</P>
<P>I'm glad that Unchained Memories was published, and quite fittingly
made its debut during Black History Month. These former slaves are the
reason why Black History Month is perpetuated now and a fitting tribute
for remembering from whence we as a nation have come.<BR><BR><SPAN>(<A
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exquisite pictorial and narrative exploration of the institution of
American slavery, this book provides readers with the opportunity to
experience from personal recollections what it was like to live under
conditions of slavery. The text format, an artistic balance of photographs
and primary sources, is composed of interviews with former slaves
conducted in the 1930s by the Federal Writers' Project. Each chapter
focuses on a particular aspect of slave life - auctions, work, family,
special occasions, providing a deeply etched portrait of hardships and
abuses as well as examples of strength of character and quiet dignity. A
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fragility and inequities of slave life better than the slave
auction..."</SPAN><BR>-- <BR><BR><BR>Juanita Flores<BR>Advocate for the Truth
from Jesus </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV>From: "Saundra Lund" <<A
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<DIV>To: "'Sue Hovey'" <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:04 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> Hi Sue,<BR>> <BR>> The man interviewed in the radio
clip was, I think, Steve Wilkins, Doug<BR>> Wilson's sidekick & good
buddy. As such, we know enough to know that they<BR>> are fans of
revisionist history, even when it means plagarising it.<BR>> <BR>> That
said, I believe the narrative collection he was referring to was<BR>>
published as _The American Slave: A Composite Autobiography_. For
more<BR>> information on this project, as well as a sampling of the
narratives, see:<BR>> <A
href="http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/wpa/wpahome.html">http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/wpa/wpahome.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> Mr. Fort's comments are insightful:<BR>> "It is worthwhile to read
the narratives closely, watching and listening for<BR>> unexpected details,
unspoken feelings, and hidden meanings. Often the full<BR>> meanings of the
narratives will remain unclear, but the ambiguities<BR>> themselves bear
careful consideration. When Emma Crockett spoke about<BR>> whippings, she
said that "All I knowed, 'twas bad times and folks got<BR>> whupped, but I
kain't say who was to blame; some was good and some was bad."<BR>> We might
discern a number of reasons for her inability or unwillingness to<BR>> name
names, to be more specific about brutalities suffered under slavery.<BR>> She
admitted that her memory was failing her, not unreasonable for an<BR>>
eighty-year-old. She also told her interviewer that under slavery she
lived<BR>> on the "plantation right over yander,"and it is likely that the
children or<BR>> grandchildren of her former masters, or her former
overseers, still lived<BR>> nearby; the threat of retribution could have made
her hold her tongue. Or,<BR>> perhaps in her old age she had come to view her
life as a slave with<BR>> equanimity and forgiveness. It is impossible to
know why she reserved<BR>> judgment, but it is worth considering the
possibilities."<BR>> <A
href="http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/wpa/reading.html">http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/wpa/reading.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> Clearly, critical thinking skills aren't one of Wilkins' fortes, and
we<BR>> shouldn't blame him for his shortcomings were it not for the fact
that he<BR>> doesn't have the sense the good Lord gave him to keep his trap
shut. Having<BR>> spend more than a few hours reading actual
narratives, I can only assume<BR>> that Wilkins did what he's so good
at: picking & choosing *only* the<BR>> information that suits his
purpose and discarding all the rest. Quite<BR>> frankly, the man
wouldn't know objectivity if it reared up and bit him on<BR>> his ample
behind.<BR>> <BR>> If you're interested in reading more, you might also
want to check out:<BR>> <A
href="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/wpaintro/wpahome.html">http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/wpaintro/wpahome.html</A><BR>>
<A
href="http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/snhtml/snhome.html">http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/snhtml/snhome.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> Another resource is:<BR>> <A
href="http://medicolegal.tripod.com/weldslaveryasis.htm">http://medicolegal.tripod.com/weldslaveryasis.htm</A><BR>>
I found this resource courtesy of Tom's Not on the Palouse Web site:<BR>> <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/">http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/</A><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> HTH,<BR>> Saundra Lund<BR>> Moscow, ID<BR>>
<BR>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
do<BR>> nothing.<BR>> - Edmund Burke<BR>> <BR>> ***** Original
material contained herein is Copyright 2006 through life plus<BR>> 70 years,
Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside<BR>> the
Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the<BR>>
author.*****<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
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[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> On Behalf Of Sue Hovey<BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:09 PM<BR>> To: Tom Hansen; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?<BR>> <BR>> I listened and reflected on what was
said, and as a preamble to my remarks, <BR>> count me as one who thinks any
connection between his reality and mine is <BR>> purely coincidental.<BR>>
<BR>> "Two different races dwelt together in harmony and true
affection." For <BR>> god's sake that wasn't even happening in the 20s
and 30s, (when the <BR>> interviews were said to have been done), then by
what stretch of the <BR>> imagination would one infer it happened in the
early and middle 1800s. He <BR>> says those interviews were done in the
late 20s and early 30s. That would <BR>> mean the youngest interviewees
had to have been born say 1860 and even they <BR>> would have been 70 by
1930. And that would be the youngest group who lived <BR>> as
slaves. I doubt very many could have been slaves as adults. They would
<BR>> have had to been born in 1840 or so and that would make them 90 at the
time <BR>> of the interviews, and he says there were thousands of
interviews. In the <BR>> 1930s the average lifespan in the U.S.
was about 55. This stuff doesn't <BR>> even fit into a legitimate
timeline.<BR>> <BR>> We have 3 choices, I think: We can
believe those interviews represent the<BR>> <BR>> truth, we can believe
the former slaves didn't remember their early lives, <BR>> or we can believe
these testimonies, if they even exist, are pure fiction.. <BR>> The first
option has little historical validity, the second is an insult to <BR>>
African American intelligence, so I'll go with number three.<BR>> <BR>>
Tom, is that stuff the pap you are going to be spoon feeding us over the
<BR>> next few days? I want a refund.<BR>> <BR>> Sue<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Tom Hansen"
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"Vision 2020" <<A
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:05 PM<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Who Dat?<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>>> Greetings Visionaires -<BR>>><BR>>> Just to
add a little bit of adventure to Vision 2020's bandwidth, I have a<BR>>>
rather extensive library of fairly recent recordings. I will spoon-feed
<BR>>> you<BR>>> short sound-bites (accompanied with brief
descriptions of their context).<BR>>><BR>>> Your objective is simply
to answer the question . . .<BR>>><BR>>> Who
Dat?<BR>>><BR>>> First up: This interview took place April 19,
2007 (That's right - last<BR>>> Thursday) on radio station KBJS 90.3 FM
out of Jacksonville, Texas.<BR>>> Disregard the on-air personality.
But, how about the person being<BR>>> interviewed . .
.<BR>>><BR>>> "Who Dat?"<BR>>> <A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/KBJS_Interview_041907_06.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/KBJS_Interview_041907_06.mp3</A><BR>>><BR>>>
Tom Hansen<BR>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>> "I'll just speak
for our church, in Christ Church. If I found out that a<BR>>> member
of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in the<BR>>>
community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his <BR>>>
reputation,<BR>>> yes, he'd be disciplined."<BR>>><BR>>> -
Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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