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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Exactly, Mr. Solomon –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Granted. The water here in <st1:City
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City> is not of the same quality as the spring water
available in the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Silver</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. This is why
I filter all water I use here in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City></st1:place>,
whether the water is used for cooking, ice water, coffee, etc. etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I personally use both a Brita-filtered
reservoir and a Brita-filtered pitcher. As a result I have no problems
with <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City></st1:place>
water.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As such, and as you suggest, the problem
is not in the quality of water as much as it is the quantity of water.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.
The college students are not very active in local elections (thank
goodness!)."<br>
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- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Solomon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 14, 2007
6:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Donovan Arnold; Sunil
Ramalingam; vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] water
development</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Maybe you missed the quotation marks around "new water". We
can talk about water quality but that is a separate issue from water quantity.
All <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
water meets Safe Drinking Act quality standards. The water derived from the
upper aquifer, which now constitutes 30% of the city supply (and supplied 100%
of the supply from the city's founding through 1960) is heavily mineralized
with iron and zinc. If your water tastes foul however, it is likely not the
water itself but either iron bacteria that have colonized your plumbing or
chlorine used to treat the water. Different parts of the city have water that
has different proportions of upper and deep aquifer waters depending on their
proximity to different wells, different water towers/reservoirs and piping
connecting it all. Either one is filterable with a low cost/low maintenance
filter readily available at most local plumbing shops and installable with
little to no tools depending on how accessible your pipes are.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At 6:13 PM -0700 4/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Conservation doesn't create new water. It simply conserves what we
have. Your suggestions do not A) Supply us with more water or B) Solve the
problem of having low quality, foul tasting, smelling water that ruins our
clothes and plumbing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The revenue of clay extraction over the course of 25-100 years would
most likely cover the costs of building a water line 50 miles. We have a
century or two solve this problem, isn't in crisis mode yet. Let industry
develop a little first.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark Solomon
<msolomon@moscow.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I don't know about <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:State>,
but the Nez Perce Tribe might have<br>
something significant to say as those are waters covered under their<br>
settlement with the state. A more probable but still highly unlikely<br>
source would be the N. Fk of the Palouse above <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Laird</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.
Unlikely<br>
because of the cost of a pipeline, diversion structure, pump station<br>
(to get around/over <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Moscow</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Mountain</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.<br>
<br>
Conservation is still the cheapest source of "new water". As I've<br>
discussed here previously, new development could fund conservation<br>
implementation to offset a development's water demand. Simple<br>
balancing of the water checkbook.<br>
<br>
m.<br>
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At 4:43 PM -0700 4/14/07, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:<br>
>Thanks, Mark.<br>
><br>
>I also wonder that if money were available for such a project,<br>
>setting aside any environmental concerns, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> would be able to<br>
>appropriate <st1:place w:st="on">Clearwater River</st1:place> water.
Wouldn't <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:State>
users<br>
>downstream have superior claims that would make such a project<br>
>difficult?<br>
><br>
>Sunil<br>
><br>
>>From: Mark Solomon<br>
>>To: Donovan Arnold , Sunil<br>
>>Ramalingam , vision2020@moscow.com<br>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water development<br>
>>Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:01:11 -0700<br>
>><br>
>>Sunil is referring to the study done by the Army Corps of Engineers<br>
>>sometime way back when that looked at the Palouse, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Clearwater</st1:place></st1:City> and<br>
>>Snake Rivers as possible water sources for <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>. Even back then<br>
>>(1974 I think) the energy costs of pumping water uphill to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City><br>
>>were prohibitive. The only person I know who has an actual copy of<br>
>>the study is Joel Hamilton. There is likely one in the UI library.<br>
>><br>
>>m.<br>
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