<DIV>Paul,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is interesting. I thought the term "Indian Giver" was a negative demonstration of White people breaking treaties with Indians, not Indians giving and taking back. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So I looked it up on Wikipedia, and I guess both reckonings for the term could be accepted. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giving">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giving</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan <BR><BR><B><I>Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">All-in-all a good list. I would also like to make the point that, <BR>depending upon where and when you grew up, it's not always easy not to <BR>accidentally offend someone. I remember making the mistake of jokingly <BR>calling someone an "Indian-giver"
in a meeting when they gave us <BR>something and then took it away (no Native Americans present). I got <BR>raked over the coals for it. However, it's just the term that I was <BR>used to using since I was about five for that uncommon practice. I <BR>wasn't even thinking about the history of the term or the fact that it <BR>could be derogative. Yet the reaction I got was truly inspiring. So, <BR>I'll tell you what. I'll try not to put my foot in my mouth if everyone <BR>else will take a deep breath and relax if I happen to inadvertently slip up.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>Andreas Schou wrote:<BR>> (1) If you have to refer to race for some reason, call people what<BR>> they ask you to. If they have to correct you, "oh, I'm sorry, I'll try<BR>> to do better" will suffice. Don't be stubbornly antiquated. For<BR>> instance, don't use the word "negro." You are not a seventy-year-old<BR>> man in a seersucker suit that's half-drunk on mint juleps: pleading<BR>>
ignorance is not an option.<BR>><BR>> (2) If you do something racially insensitive by accident, apologize,<BR>> but don't freak out. You've just done something rude, but, hell, we've<BR>> all used the wrong fork at an expensive dinner.<BR>><BR>> (3) If you do something racially insensitive on purpose, don't whine<BR>> when there are consequences. If it is, for instance, your job to say<BR>> things to people, and you are speaking into a microphone, and<BR>> everything you say is recorded, do not pretend that it isn't gross<BR>> incompetence to say the wrong thing.<BR>><BR>> (4) If you are white, do not pretend that because your grandparents<BR>> came over from the Old Country, you, in particular, have experienced<BR>> any particular racism. I can't tell that you're<BR>> Irish/Italian/Polish/whatever. Neither can anyone else. People have to<BR>> know this in order to discriminate against you. Some exceptions may<BR>> exist
for people who have lived in Hawaii. Every other white person in<BR>> America is out of luck.<BR>><BR>> (5) We all have freedom of speech. That means the government can't<BR>> shut you up. That doesn't mean that I can't object to what you say.<BR>><BR>> (6) Don't think you can use racial slurs because people of the same<BR>> ethnic group use them on each other. It's baffling in the same way<BR>> that telling "yo mamma" jokes to your siblings would be, but not<BR>> offensive in the same way that a stranger shouting a "yo mamma" joke<BR>> out of their car window would be.<BR>><BR>> (7) That Chris Rock impression you're going to do at the NAACP<BR>> conference? Yeah. That's probably a bad idea.<BR>><BR>> It is not a tremendous imposition on you to do these things. It's rude<BR>> not to. Why is that such a big deal?<BR>><BR>> -- ACS<BR>><BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List
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