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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Psycho babble aside, sometimes a cigar is
merely a cigar. Does the fact that you are so vehemently opposed to any type of
religious doctrine mean that you harbor messianic tendencies? It would
explain quite a lot about how you deal with anyone who might dare to
disagree with your exalted point of view and multi color
pronouncements.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 16, 2007 9:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] The maladjusted
and those who enable them...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana></FONT><FONT face=Verdana>Tony,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=Verdana>
<DIV><TD class=headword><STRONG>reaction formation</STRONG></TD><TD
style="WIDTH: 4.5pt"></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> (<I>plural</I>
<B>reaction formations</B>): In psychoanalysis, a defense mechanism
in which somebody condemns something that has a strong,
driving unconscious appeal.</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>reaction formation</STRONG> is a <A title="Defense mechanism"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_mechanism">defense mechanism</A> in
which <A title=Anxiety
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety">anxiety</A>-producing or
unacceptable <A title=Emotion
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion">emotions</A> are replaced by their
direct opposites. This mechanism is often characteristic of obsessional
neuroses. When this mechanism is overused, especially during the formation of
the ego, it can become a permanent character trait. This is often in those
with obsessional character and obsessive personality disorders. This does not
imply that its periodic usage is always obsessional, but that it can lead to
obsessional behavior. <STRONG>Example:</STRONG> A man who is
overly aroused by pornographic material who utilizes reaction formation may
take on an attitude of criticism toward the topic.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#b5a679><FONT size=5>R</FONT>EACTION<FONT
size=+2>-</FONT><FONT size=+2>F</FONT>ORMATION </FONT></STRONG>: <B><FONT
size=+1>The blocking of desire by its opposite</FONT></B>.
"Reaction-formation" is the term Freud uses to describe the mechanism whereby
the <A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/ego.html"
target=_self>ego</A> <I>reacts</I> to the impulses of the <A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/id.html"
target=_self>id</A> by creating an antithetical formation that blocks <A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repression.html"
target=_self>repressed</A> <A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/cathexis.html"
target=_self>cathexes</A>. <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>For example, someone
who feels homosexual desire might </FONT></STRONG><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/English/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repression.html"
target=_self><STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>repress</FONT></STRONG></A><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000> that
desire by turning it into hatred for all homosexuals.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps you and Farris might confront and thus deal directly with your
personal demons discretely in private, rather than so
obviously exhibiting them in public. I am sure that everyone would
benefit, especially you and Farris: both your stultifying repressions
and secret frustrations could be at least partially deadened. And after
you have relived your tensions, perhaps you might be able to pass on your
personal experiences with the cure and your newly found contacts to
Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and his apparent secret admirer Douglas Jones,
both who appear to need such therapy quite badly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Your internally inconsistent post also reveals the grave doubts you
have about your masculinity and sexual identity when you have to resort to
posting outright lies. For example:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><FONT
size=3>"</FONT>Saundra's determination to avoid reality by choosing to
doubt what has by now become commonplace, rather than investigate, is
disappointing if not surprising."</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=4>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>Included in this thread is a post by Saundra giving the URL to the story
from the <EM>Chicago Tribune</EM> which casts a very different light on the
story posted originally by the salivating, non-critical Farris. Saundra
investigated; you did not. It is one thing for you and the gullible,
narrow-witted Farris to delude yourselves thinking you are <EM>agent
provocateurs</EM>, but, in reality, quite another to so clearly exhibit
yourselves as sexually frustrated liars.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>----- Original Message -----
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>From: "Tony" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>tonytime@clearwire.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>To: "Art Deco" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:21
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The maladjusted and
those who enable them...</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Verdana size=2>> Wow Doug, you really flushed out the extremist,
sodomite activists with your <BR>> entirely reasonable and justified
outrage over the public school's abhorrent <BR>> support for inappropriate,
dirty and unhealthy behaviors. Saundra's <BR>> determination to avoid
reality by choosing to doubt what has by now become <BR>> commonplace,
rather than investigate, is disappointing if not surprising.<BR>> <BR>>
And how about Wayne's complete refusal to address your message in favor of a
<BR>> masturbatory fit of name calling? You know you have hit upon
the truth in a <BR>> persuasive manner when these folks, who seem
determined to defend the <BR>> indefensible, respond in a childlike
snit.<BR>> <BR>> Keep up the good work partner.<BR>> <BR>>
Best, -Tony<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
"Art Deco" <</FONT><A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2>><BR>> To:
"Vision 2020" <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Verdana size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>><BR>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:25 AM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political agenda?!<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>>> Replaying:<BR>>><BR>>> This kind of right
wing/religious bullshit is what happens when misguided,<BR>>> stupid,
and/or tyrannical people depend on superstition for their moral<BR>>>
beliefs rather than observation and reasoning.<BR>>><BR>>>
W.<BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>> From: "Sue Hovey"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>suehovey@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>><BR>>> To: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>sslund@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>><BR>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:31 PM<BR>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political
<BR>>> agenda?!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> Note Waltz's
final comment, "All our kids are great kids, whether they <BR>>>>
are<BR>>>> gay or straight," is, I believe, the point of these
classes. Too bad she<BR>>>> doesn't get
it.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Strange the Trib article doesn't even
mention the nondisclosure contract<BR>>>> bit, which, if true, would
be a significant issue for the press. I<BR>>>> seriously doubt
there is anything to the claim students have to sign a<BR>>>>
contract promising "not to tell their parents." Public school folks
who<BR>>>> work with teenagers know they tell everything--to
everyone, except maybe<BR>>>> their parents, until they turn 40 and
around the dinner table tell us all<BR>>>> that stuff we really don't
want to know now.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Mrs. Walz's daughter
was hurt when her beliefs were challenged. But<BR>>>>
that's<BR>>>> how kids grow, and adults, too. To be called on
to examine ones beliefs<BR>>>> is<BR>>>> not to say they are
necessarily wrong; but as one who grew up believing<BR>>>> pretty
much what Mrs Walz would have her daughter believe, I wish
someone<BR>>>> had challenged my attitudes when I was 17 or
so.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks for the
lin.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Sue Hovey<BR>>>> ----- Original
Message ----- <BR>>gt;> From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>sslund@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>><BR>>>> To: "'Sue Hovey'" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>suehovey@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana
size=2>><BR>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01
AM<BR>>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a
political<BR>>>>
agenda?!<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> Hi
Sue,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> You might want to check out this
link to a story that was in the Chicago<BR>>>>>
Trib:<BR>>>>> </FONT><A href="http://tinyurl.com/2arte6"><FONT
face=Verdana size=2>http://tinyurl.com/2arte6</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Verdana><FONT size=2>>>>><BR>>>>> Not
surprisingly, the story is actually quite a bit different than
the<BR>>>>> drivel Doug Farris wants us to believe. Seems to
me the religious<BR>>>>> reactionaries need to get their stories
straight -- it's hard to make <BR>>>>> the<BR>>>>>
argument about the whole nonsense of some confidentiality contract
when<BR>>>>> everyone knows about the event in advance and parents
can opt to not <BR>>>>> have<BR>>>>> their children
participate. Notice, too, the names & how Ellen
Waltz,<BR>>>>> whose name appears in the Trib, seems to be
changing her story
:-P<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Saundra
Lund<BR>>>>> Moscow, ID<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
<BR>>>>> do<BR>>>>> nothing.<BR>>>>> -
Edmund Burke<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> ***** Original material
contained herein is Copyright 2006 through life<BR>>>>> plus 70
years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
<BR>>>>> reproduce<BR>>>>> outside the Vision 2020
forum without the express written permission of<BR>>>>> the
author.*****<BR></FONT></FONT>
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