<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Doug, <DIV>I'm happy to hear that you are making an effort to eat less meat. Your health will thank you, as well as the planet. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As for your questions, is that the best you could come up with? LOL! What will we do with all the cattle? Well, I'm not sure the entire planet will be giving up their meat addition just yet (although one would hope that in light of the overwhelming evidence that it's slowly killing us, everyone would switch to a plant-based diet). I think we can adjust over time and as the demand for meat goes down, the number of livestock bred and raised in factory farms will go down accordingly. In the meantime, I believe that livestock species can be protected and saved in sanctuaries such as the Farm Sanctuary. I doubt that we will completely eradicate our use of livestock, but reducing their number over time by, perhaps, not artificially inseminating milk cows to keep them pregnant and producing milk all the time and raising their babies for veal... and of course, just breeding animals less, will help reduce the greenhouse gases they produce. We can then use more farmland for growing plants that will feed humans directly, instead of the majority of our farmland (and our imports) going to feed cattle at a huge expense of land, water, and resources.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'm not trying to say that eradicating meat production is our only choice, nor is it really possible at this point, but we could start by reducing our intake of meat so that the demand goes down. It's the intensive industrial farming methods that we use that are hazardous to the environment, much more so than farmers in Asia using oxen instead of tractors. Maybe we could go back to organic farming (and more plants grown for food, less for livestock feed) on a large scale and rid ourselves of factory farms, which are one of the largest polluters in this country. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As for the cabbage, I'm not aware of the greenhouse gases produced by cabbage. And I don't see how cabbage production would increase, there are many many many more edible plants out there.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ants... well, I don't think they produce many greenhouse gases compared to livestock or humans. And they've been around for quite some time with little detrimental effect on the planet. They tend to live in harmony with their ecosystems, maybe we could learn something from them (well, maybe not all species). </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you have scientific information on the impacts of cabbage and ants on the atmosphere, please, do share. :)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>peace & veggies!</DIV><DIV>~megan</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:00 PM, <A href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Message: 1</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:50:36 -0400</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">From: <A href="mailto:heirdoug@netscape.net">heirdoug@netscape.net</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Subject: [Vision2020]<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Ed the Viking, Greenland, and Global Warming</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">To: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>, <A href="mailto:megan@meganpru.com">megan@meganpru.com</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:8C932D54FAFF4B1-AE4-143A@webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com">8C932D54FAFF4B1-AE4-143A@webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Megan,</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">I'm with you too much meat is not a good thing. I only eat 15 to 20%<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">meat now. What do we do with all of the cattle and monkeys that are<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">worshiped in India? What do we do with all of oxen that are used to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">farm the land in Asia? Should we replace them with tractors?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Let's say that we all turn to eating plants. What would be the increase<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">in our production of green house gas from all of the cabbage?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">What about the ant population? Don't those little critters produce a<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">lot a methane?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Please feel free to answer these questions.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Doug!</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">-------------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">-------</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">This is just a guess (since I'm not Nick), but perhaps the statistics</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">on livestock contributing more to global warming than all</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">transportation combined came from this UN's Food and Agriculture</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Organization report: <A href="http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/">http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">index.html</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Here's a quote from the above article:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">"Which causes more greenhouse gas emissions, rearing cattle or</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">driving cars?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Surprise!</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">According to a new report published by the United Nations Food and</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Agriculture Organization, the livestock sector generates more</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18 percent -</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">than transport. It is also a major source of land and water</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">degradation."</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Looks like going vegetarian has more positive impact on global</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">warming than getting a hybrid. :) PETA has written a letter to Al</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Gore asking if he'd consider going veg (and offering to make him some</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">fine vegan cookin') in order to reduce his impact on global warming</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">and set an example. We'll see if he responds. Here's the article on</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">that from PETA's blog: <A href="http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/">http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">clearing_a_few.php</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">If anyone needs vegetarian recipes or tips, I have plenty to share. ;)</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">peace,</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">~Megan</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>