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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan, Your contention that those who
don't speak English are rude and make everyone cater to them is a pretty narrow
view of the conditions of many non-English speakers. Some of them are
elderly with limited opportunities to learn English, many of them are
eager to learn and seek out classes only to find they cannot afford the
tuition or the classes are full. Others, and I have known numbers of them,
struggle to learn as much as they can while they clean the houses, pick the
fruit, and care for the children of the more affluent. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think I might not so much mind the misguided
efforts of arrogant lawmakers, if in their haste to proclaim English as our
national language, they also passed laws to facilitate that learning for
non-English speaking adults. Fortunately we do have programs in place for
school age children, but even today there is a national movement to deny
many of these children education services. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You state that all of our prior immigrants learned
to speak English, surely you know that is not so. Certainly you are
correct that being unable to speak English does hinder those who need to make a
living here. I don't think you actually meant to say English is an
American invention--sometimes even those of us who speak it don't get it right
all the time. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do see products with Spanish as well as English
instructions, but unless they are imports, I have not yet seen any which give
priority to instructions in Spanish, not even
tortilla warmers, recipes on salsa bottles, or Corona. (OK so
you don't need instructions for beer) What are some of those products
anyway?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Words Bring
Pause</DIV>
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<DIV>Now the good Senator can go to Somalia and give the same speech to
them, as they too have also elected to make Somalia and English
their official languages. </DIV>
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<DIV>I think helping those that cannot speak English in this country is
wonderful. However, I think not learning to speak the language simple keeps
those individuals down in society and hinders society as well. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In the sheltered world of Northern Idaho, Spanish is by far a second
language, but in many other parts of the west, in an increasing number of
places, English is the second language and most the people on the street are
speaking Spanish, not English, the signs are in Spanish and if you do not
speak Spanish you often find yourself unable to ask the person next to you or
an employee at a business a question. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Even instructions on some products are primarily in Spanish, with
English as the second language. </DIV>
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<DIV>The US is a nation of immigrants, Spanish, German, French, Italian Greek,
Swedish, Irish, Arabic, Asian, African, Eskimo, etc. But they all learned to
speak English. It isn't favoritism, it even an American invention, it
isn't superiority, and it certainly isn't the most sensible, logical, or
easiest language to master, but they all, all, even the poor ones, learned to
speak the language. They didn't try to change the country to their culture and
language, they added too it, they didn't destroy it, ignore it, or disrespect
it. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In the United States we speak English. To refuse to speak the language of
the people in the country you choose to live in is rude and disrespectful to
those in it. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have the deepest respect for the people that come here and learn the
language, but I have nothing but spite for those that come here and refuse to
help out and make everyone cater to them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"If you speak English, Press 1 now. If you don't speak English,
learn it, then press 1."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Edgar
Malepeai is a very special person and a remarkable teacher. One of <BR>the
impacts of legislation such as this is the harm in inflicts on people
<BR>who speak English (in Edgar's case it's beautifully spoken and
articulate as <BR>well) as a second language (or third or fourth) because
there is the implied <BR>message that some languages are superior to
others.<BR><BR>Some of you may not appreciate the message "numero dos, para
Espanol" but <BR>there are those of us who sometimes push button two just to
make our minds <BR>remember what we used to know pretty well.<BR><BR>Closing
with a non sequitur: When Governor George Bush told Texans he was
<BR>learning Spanish, Jim Hightower responded, "Now he can be
bi-ignorant."<BR><BR>Sue Hovey<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From:
"keely emerinemix" <KJAJMIX1@MSN.COM><BR>To: <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>;
<VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:46 PM<BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Words Bring Pause<BR><BR><BR>> Thanks to Sen. Malepeai
for his clearheaded and rational comments against <BR>> a<BR>>
divisive and unnecessary bill.<BR>><BR>> keely<BR>><BR>><BR>>
From: "Tom Hansen" <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM><BR>> To: "Vision 2020"
<VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Words Bring
Pause<BR>> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:42:03 -0700<BR>><BR>> >From
today's (March 11, 2007) Spokesman Review with a very special thanks<BR>>
to<BR>> State Senator Edgar Malepeai -<BR>><BR>>
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Words Bring Pause<BR>><BR>> The Idaho Senate voted 20-15 in favor of
Senate Bill 1172, declaring <BR>> English<BR>> to be the official
language of Idaho, in a debate that took a personal <BR>>
turn.<BR>><BR>> "It's not for shutting people out, but bringing people
in," Sen. Mel<BR>> Richardson, R-Idaho Falls, lead sponsor of the bill,
told the Senate.<BR>><BR>> Sen. Edgar Malepeai, D-Pocatello, said
quietly, "Looking around the <BR>> chamber,<BR>> I think I'm probably
the only one that has English as a second language."<BR>> Malepeai
recalled that his late father and uncles served proudly in the <BR>>
U.S.<BR>> military. "They spoke very, very broken English, but they were
proud<BR>> American Samoans," Malepeai said. Democracy and freedom "is
what unifies<BR>> people in this country," he said, "not the English
language." A hush fell <BR>> in<BR>> the Senate after Malepeai's
comments, and no one else debated the bill.<BR>><BR>>
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Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow,
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