<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Wow, I am shocked that something this backwards and discriminatory would even be brought up these days... disgusting. It will never pass, hopefully, because that just sounds like fascism.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>By that initiative, if I were to marry my boyfriend (assuming we lived in WA), we'd have to have kids after 3 years or forfeit our marriage?!? So the state would be not only contributing to overpopulation, but controlling people's lives. We're not sure I want to have kids, and it sure as hell isn't gonna be within 3 years. That is just ridiculous (almost makes me think it's a joke!)....</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>~megan</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:33 PM, <A href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">----- Original Message ----</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">From: Ellen Roskovich <<A href="mailto:gussie443@hotmail.com">gussie443@hotmail.com</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">To: <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>; <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 1:10:53 PM</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Washington Initiative I-957 (Defense of MarriageInitiative)</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">It will never fly.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>It is discrimination pure and simple and is offensive to so many different groups.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>What a waste of time and effort when there are so many really important issues to be considered.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Ellen A. Roskovich</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">From:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>"Tom Hansen" <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">To:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>"Vision 2020" <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Subject:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>[Vision2020] Washington Initiative I-957 (Defense of MarriageInitiative)</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Date:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:43:49 -0800</FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 20.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">From the Defense of Marriage Alliance website at:</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica"><A href="http://www.wa-doma.org">http://www.wa-doma.org</A>/</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">"If passed by Washington voters, the Defense of Marriage Initiative (WA</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">I-957) would:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">- add the phrase, 'who are capable of having children with one another' to</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">the legal definition of marriage;</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">- require that couples married in Washington file proof of procreation</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">within three years of the date of marriage or have their marriage</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">automatically annulled;</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">- require that couples married out of state file<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">proof of procreation within</FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">three years of the date of marriage or have their marriage classed as</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">"unrecognized;"</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">- establish a process for filing proof of procreation; and make it a</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">criminal act for people in an unrecognized marriage to receive marriage</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">benefits."</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">This initiative, as supported by the Defense of Marriage Alliance, is</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">available for downloading and review at:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica"><A href="http://www.wa-doma.org/Initiative.aspx">http://www.wa-doma.org/Initiative.aspx</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Although the unwritten purpose of this initiative may be clearly understood</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">(the denial of same-sex marriages/unions), its passage would further</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">prohibit the marriage of ANY couple that is not capable of procreating:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>the</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">elderly, cancer survivors, women who have undergone hysterectomies, men who</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">have undergone vasectomies, etc.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">etc.</FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Your thoughts, Vision 2020?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Tom "Straight But Not Narrow" Hansen</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Moscow, Idaho</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">"Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity,</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">their dignity and personhood,"</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">- Coretta Scott King (March 30, 1998)</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>