<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dave-<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV>Well said. :) It's good to know that some people are paying attention.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Anyone that has any respect for life (all life - because that is really what is at stake here) can't deny that global warming, our abuse of the planet, and our polluting habits can't seriously be considered progress or morally sound. I believe that we can evolve to live in harmony, both with each other and the earth, that we can act now with the knowledge we have and turn things around... am I too much of an optimist?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><B>"Humankind has not woven the web of life. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things are connected" ~Chief Seattle</B></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Everything is connected. It's obvious global warming is big and our lifestyles are not sustainable, denial is only slowing us down and sealing our doom...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Change is good. :)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>~megan</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV><DIV><DIV>On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:52 PM, <A href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">----------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Message: 1</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:06:24 +0000</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">From: "david sarff" <<A href="mailto:davesway@hotmail.com">davesway@hotmail.com</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Al Gore's 'Lie' Breaks Records Relevance?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">To: <A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>, <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:BAY135-F129569C88F28A6F4E72339C5870@phx.gbl">BAY135-F129569C88F28A6F4E72339C5870@phx.gbl</A>></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Will Rogers said<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>“We’re all ignorant , just about different stuff”</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">I think its pretty wild that a bunch of folks are putting on like Gore<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">invented Global Warming. Their accusation of him was not comprehensively<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">weighed. There are too many people that seem to find comfort in their denial<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">with just a limited number of questionable sources and tiny bits of support.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">It especially sets me back when members connected to the Ag community, who<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">are absolutely dependent on science ( of which climatology is a part) to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">support our present ag structure, long knowing the level of production<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">losses that can occur with just a few degrees of average climate change.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Even potential lowering the carrying capacity of the earth at this stage in<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">human history is absolutely nothing to pooh pooh. Our collective belt is<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">getting tight.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">We have never had 6.5 billion humans with ravenous appetites for far more<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">than just food and housing along with so much soil exposed and something<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">like 2% of citizens in our own country practicing the task of growing the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">food. There is really nothing in all of human existence to compare this too.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">The food support pyramid is upside down with one farmer on the bottom and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">the masses at the top. Where have we done that in ancient history.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">If we loose ag production it’s not going to be made up by farming the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">exposed Greenland soils or Canadian tundra turf.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Talk about going back to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">the stone ages. That is exactly what those of us concerned about this wish<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">to avoid.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">My view is that we simply include in our accounting the cost of carbon per<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">pound emitted. ( something not included by even our local save the buss<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">group) Our markets will adjust to that. We could be creating jobs and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">increasing manufacture closer to home because of it. Making shirts, shoes<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">and boxes of cold cereal more locally. We will be living in self heating and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">self cooling homes and utilizing resources as we always have, only with<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">greater excellence. Driving the most technologically advanced vehicles. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">This is not anti economy or growth. It is in fact a vast opportunity to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">improve living for us all, and not just here, but globally.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">People can call this a hoax, the apocalypse, or the fuzzy edge of a horizon<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">event leading into a technological singularity. But something is going down,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">its big, and not acting to move forward is out of the question.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Dave</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">To avoid getting confused by charlatans on the global warming issue, there<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">are two fundamental questions to ask yourself:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">1.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Is global warming occurring at the present time?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">2.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If so, how much has human activity contributed to such warming?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">1.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The amount of evidence supporting the hypothesis that global warming<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">is occurring is formidable.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Over the last 50 years the average air<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">temperature computed by considering the temperature from thousands of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">different worldwide points has undeniably risen.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Glacial and ice mass melt<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">has far outstripped glacial and ice mass growth worldwide.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The ocean level<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">has risen.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">One of the sources cited in the last post from<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:news.of.christ.cult@gamil.com">news.of.christ.cult@gamil.com</A> is a National Geographic Magazine article. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">It has pictures for those not able or willing to read words:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Link to National Geographic Society Story<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The visual evidence is quite<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">impressive.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>On the local level, those of us who have visited/hiked in the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Canadian Rockies over the last 50 years have seen the dramatic decrease of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">glacial mass firsthand.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">There is other evidence from changes in the ranges of biota worldwide. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Only a few skeptics deny that global warming has been occurring.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">2.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The debate over global warming is really not whether it is occurring<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">or not, but what are the causes, how much is caused by human activity, and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">what effects could humans have on reversing the trend.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">A synopsis of the almost unanimous scientific community can be found here:</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">IPCC:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The Physical Basis of Climate Change</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">It is not light reading.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Of course, there are a few quasi-scientific dissenters.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>That is true of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">almost any current, edge of knowledge scientific theory, including the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">theory of gravity (yes, even at this late date after we have use it to send<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">to and retrieve persons from the moon), and the theories of the structure<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">of matter.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>One of the main arguments for hypothesizing the human causation<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">part of global warming is the vastly increased amounts of atmospheric<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">carbon oxide.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Human activity is now producing much more of this gas than ever before.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>In<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">addition, the natural control of carbon dioxide, plant photosynthesis, has<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">been reduced since massive amounts of the larger of this kind of vegetation<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">has been destroyed in the last 200 years, a great deal of it in the last 50<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">years (Amazon forests, e.g.).<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Not only does the destruction of this<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">vegetation reduce carbon dioxide intake and control, but it also causes<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">climatic changes.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Critics of global warming like to point out that there are natural climatic<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">cycles lasting thousand of years.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>That is true.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">The last ice age ended about 10,000 years ago.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Since shortly after that,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">average world air temperatures have been relatively stable until about 50<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">years ago, whence they started to climb.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>[Although there were not weather<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">stations until the 19th century, there are ways to estimate accurately<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">basic world climatic conditions/temperatures in the past.]<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Proponents of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">the hypothesis that humans are now contributing much more than ever to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">global warming point to this sudden temperature upswing in conjunction with<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">the vast increase of human carbon dioxide production.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">As a side note, I find it amusing that biblical inerrantists like Ed<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Iverson and his ilk argue against human causation of global warming partly<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">on the basis of past ice ages that apparently started over two billion<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">years ago.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_ages">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_ages</A></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">According to the Bible, the alleged God thereof created the earth less than<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">7,000 years ago.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Do the math and draw your own conclusions about Iverson's<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">theories, expertise, and even basic arithmetical and logical ability.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">Ted Moffett and others have posted evidence about the global warming crisis<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">here on V 2020.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>They cite not only the scientific hypotheses, but the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">factual basis for them.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Critics of the theory frequently cite only a small<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">bit of the evidence, and like their cousins, the creationists, really only<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">show their ignorance of the facts and theory in total.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; font: 11.0px Helvetica; min-height: 13.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">In small, I like to compare of those who exhort us not to take global<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">warming seriously with another group -- those realtors and developers in<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">parts of southern California who promised that building large, heavy houses<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">on steep hillsides would cause no problems in the future.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>This greedy<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">group even produced a few whorish, but hardly competent geologists to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">support their views.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Unless you live in a cave, you know what happens<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">every year to some of these houses.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>What you may not know is that you pay<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">for such folly because those losses impact your home owner's insurance<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">costs even though the losses did not occur in this area.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Apply the same<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">thinking to global warming and include the likely effects on your line of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 11.0px Helvetica">progeny.</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px; 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