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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>To avoid getting confused by charlatans on the
global warming issue, there are two fundamental questions to ask
yourself:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>1. Is global warming occurring at the
present time?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>2. If so, how much has human activity
contributed to such warming?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>1. The amount of evidence supporting
the hypothesis that global warming is occurring is formidable. Over the
last 50 years the average air temperature computed by considering the
temperature from thousands of different worldwide points has undeniably
risen. Glacial and ice mass melt has far outstripped glacial and ice mass
growth worldwide. The ocean level has risen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>One of the sources cited in the last post from <A
href="mailto:news.of.christ.cult@gamil.com">news.of.christ.cult@gamil.com</A> is
a National Geographic Magazine article. It has pictures for those not able
or willing to read words:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://mail.google.com/mail/?auth=DQAAAHsAAAB7WtympXeNQClN4ctHAmRWdvvL7zmC4ETEMuoZX6-nIADyNYB-vw1Pe4Xvq7zAZv7nNxwF-HvMkPmcdJ0NKksCkXwPMDmXjTe8bnSo5HqnWNgk1t6RblSw9wgcvHzwsQEZ9oh_WnxIGiXnXYuu2Nw-ZErRJCkoQUPog0BbKzJueQ"
target=_blank>Link to National Geographic Society Story</A><FONT
face=Verdana> The visual evidence is quite impressive. On the local
level, those of us who have visited/hiked in the Canadian Rockies over the last
50 years have seen the dramatic decrease of glacial mass firsthand.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>There is other evidence from changes in the ranges of
biota worldwide. Only a few skeptics deny that global warming has been
occurring.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>2. The debate over global warming is
really not whether it is occurring or not, but what are the causes, how much is
caused by human activity, and what effects could humans have on reversing the
trend.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>A synopsis of the almost unanimous scientific community
can be found here:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf" target=_blank><STRONG><FONT
size=4>IPCC: The Physical Basis of Climate
Change</FONT></STRONG></A><BR><FONT face=Verdana>It is not light
reading.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Of course, there are a few quasi-scientific
dissenters. That is true of almost any current, edge of knowledge
scientific theory, including the theory of gravity (yes, even at this late date
after we have use it to send to and retrieve persons from the moon), and the
theories of the structure of matter. One of the main arguments for
hypothesizing the human causation part of global warming is the vastly increased
amounts of atmospheric carbon oxide. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Human activity is now producing much more of this gas
than ever before. In addition, the natural control of carbon dioxide,
plant photosynthesis, has been reduced since massive amounts of the larger of
this kind of vegetation has been destroyed in the last 200 years, a great deal
of it in the last 50 years (Amazon forests, e.g.). Not only does the
destruction of this vegetation reduce carbon dioxide intake and control, but it
also causes climatic changes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Critics of global warming like to point out that there
are natural climatic cycles lasting thousand of years. That is true.
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>The last ice age ended about 10,000 years ago.
Since shortly after that, average world air temperatures have been relatively
stable until about 50 years ago, whence they started to climb. [Although
there were not weather stations until the 19th century, there are ways to
estimate accurately basic world climatic conditions/temperatures in the
past.] Proponents of the hypothesis that humans are now contributing much
more than ever to global warming point to this sudden temperature upswing in
conjunction with the vast increase of human carbon dioxide
production.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>As a side note, I find it amusing that biblical
inerrantists like Ed Iverson and his ilk argue against human causation of global
warming partly on the basis of past ice ages that apparently started over
two billion years ago. <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_ages">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_ages</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>According to the Bible, the alleged God thereof created
the earth less than 7,000 years ago. Do the math and draw your own
conclusions about Iverson's theories, expertise, and even basic
arithmetical and logical ability.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Ted Moffett and others have posted evidence about the
global warming crisis here on V 2020. They cite not only the scientific
hypotheses, but the factual basis for them. Critics of the theory
frequently cite only a small bit of the evidence, and like their cousins, the
creationists, really only show their ignorance of the facts and theory in
total.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>In small, I like to compare of those who exhort us
not to take global warming seriously with another group -- those realtors and
developers in parts of southern California who promised that building large,
heavy houses on steep hillsides would cause no problems in the
future. This greedy group even produced a few whorish, but hardly
competent geologists to support their views. Unless you live in a
cave, you know what happens every year to some of these houses. What you
may not know is that you pay for such folly because those losses impact your
home owner's insurance costs even though the losses did not occur in this
area. Apply the same thinking to global warming and include the likely
effects on your line of progeny.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>From: "lfalen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><FONT
face=Verdana>lfalen@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Verdana>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>To: <</FONT><A
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:25 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: [Spam] Al Gore's 'Lie' Breaks
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Here are some other
views to consider on Global Warming. Some of these should probably be taken with
a grain of salt, but so should Al Gore's. In addition to the NewsMax
comments posted below, other books that should be studied are"The Improving
State of the World" by Indur M Goklany and "The Politically Incorrect Guide to
Global Warming" by Chistopher C. Horner. While Global Warming may be occuring,
just how much man has to do with it is questionable. Even if man is not a
significant contributor to global warming, we should still be looking for other
sources of energy Oil is a finite resource and will come to and end some
day like Whale Oil. There are some problems with ethanol and other biofuels. It
take almost as much energy to make ethanol as is produced. Another problem
is that the use of corn for ethanol is driving up the price. This creates a
problem for livestock produces and the production of tortillas in Mexico.<BR>Air
pollution is a health problem aside from any effect on global warming. Just take
a trip to Riverside, California and see the smog there. These problems need to
worked on. But draconian measures that disrupt the economy are probably not in
order at this time. We need to solve these problems, but lets not go back to the
stone age in the process.<BR>> <BR>> Roger<BR>> -----Original
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