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<DIV><STRONG>Washtucna? </STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Verdana size=3>What a low
blow!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=gussie443@hotmail.com href="mailto:gussie443@hotmail.com">Ellen
Roskovich</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=privatejf32@hotmail.com
href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=mmike@hotmail.com
href="mailto:mmike@hotmail.com">mmike@hotmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
Issues</DIV></DIV>
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<P><STRONG>Daisy's topless carwash was about as much a "business" as a kid's
lemonade stand. You don't think she paid sales tax do you?</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>The Beach, on the other hand, pays taxes and yearly beer and wine
license fees. The wet t-shirt contests are not held in public but inside
the building. I say to each his own. . . water is going to seek it's own
level. And, hey, there was lotsa drinking going on in the bible and even
Mr/Rev Doug wanted to serve underage children "communion wine". . . the Beach
shouldn't be such a big deal. I consider it "entertainment" and if you
want that type of entertainment. . . so what? This is a college
town. And without the college what do you have? What would Moscow be
like? Troy. Potlatch. Genesee. Dreary. <FONT
color=#0000ff>Washtucna.</FONT> </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>And seriously. . . .how many night spots are there in Moscow for
young people to go to for fun? Is there really any NICE place to take
a date and go dancing? I'll even go so far to say this. . . . is there any
nice night spot for a middle-aged couple to go to for dinner, a drink and maybe
a dance? THINK ABOUT IT!! </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Moscow already died a long time ago. No one wants to face up to
it. Please, someone, just write the obituary and get it over
with.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Everyone says they don't want Moscow to change. . . . Can't you see
it? MOSCOW HAS ALREADY CHANGED!! Today's Moscow is not the place I
moved to 30 years ago. Over 60 years ago my folks were shopping at David's
Department Store. . . . so we're not some jonny-come-latelys to this
scene. We've watched the change happen.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Dang, it's late. . . . Goodnight, Moscow.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG></STRONG><BR><BR> </P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>"J Ford"
<privatejf32@hotmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re:
[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
Issues</I><BR>Date: <I>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:04:43
-0800</I><BR>><BR>>Yeah, I know...just thought I'd point out that Wilson
campaigned <BR>>very strongly against that business. Not that I
agreed with the car <BR>>wash or wanted it particularly, just that he did
go up against it. <BR>>Curious that he didn't just "vote with
his dollars" and not <BR>>patronize it. BTW, isn't going to
places like the "Beach" on nights <BR>>such as "Wet T-Shirt Night" just as,
em, *bad* as attending one of <BR>>those car washes? Wilson
better keep a better eye on his <BR>>boys....seems like they may be voting
with their dollars by going in
<BR>>there.<BR>><BR>>J :]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>>From:
"Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443@hotmail.com><BR>>>To:
privatejf32@hotmail.com, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
<BR>>>Issues<BR>>>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:39:47
-0800<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Heavens to
betsy! Do you mean hippie Daisy's topless
carwash? <BR>>>That wasn't a real business. . . it was a
joke. Just childish <BR>>>nonsense. If no one paid
them any attention, they would have all <BR>>>gone away the first chilly
day.<BR>>><BR>>>Ellen
Roskovich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>From: "J
Ford"
<privatejf32@hotmail.com><BR>>>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
<BR>>>Issues<BR>>>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:31:26
-0800<BR>>> >Well now, that is avoidance of a topic. Good
going.<BR>>> ><BR>>> >And yes he does campaign against
businesses (remember the car <BR>>>wash?) He<BR>>> >certainly
does in his sermons and writings.<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> >J :]<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> >
>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>>> > >To:
"J Ford" <privatejf32@hotmail.com>,
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Parking Survey Under Way and other <BR>>>NSA Issues<BR>>> >
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:18:05 -0800<BR>>> > ><BR>>>
> ><BR>>> > >To the best of my<BR>>>knowledge Mr.
Wilson has never actively campaigned to<BR>>> > >prevent any
legitimate enterprise from starting up in Moscow. <BR>>>It
appears<BR>>> > >that he and his congregation vote after the fact
with their <BR>>>shopping<BR>>> > >dollars, as is their
right.<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > >With regard to Wilson's "too
numerous writings," when, as a <BR>>>mental<BR>>> >
>exercise, I imagine you in one of the afore mentioned
<BR>>>"positions of power"<BR>>> > >I wonder how anyone
could possibly come to any other possible <BR>>>conclusion.<BR>>>
> ><BR>>> > >I fail to see even a glimmering of logic in
your post.<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > >g<BR>>> >
>----- Original Message -----<BR>>> > >From: "J Ford"
<privatejf32@hotmail.com><BR>>> > >To:
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> > >Sent: Wednesday, February
14, 2007 6:39 PM<BR>>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey
Under Way and<BR>>>other NSA Issues<BR>>> > ><BR>>>
> ><BR>>> > > ><BR>>> > > > So someone
disagreeing with business practices or with a <BR>>>business'
lack<BR>>> > >of<BR>>> > > > community care, are to
be labeled "wackadoos" and <BR>>>"moonbats"? Who
wrote<BR>>> > > > that rule?<BR>>> > >
><BR>>> > > > Does that mean Doug is wackadoo" or a
"moonbat" because he <BR>>>doesn't like<BR>>> >
>the<BR>>> > > > way some businesses allow women to be in
charge or allows <BR>>>them to be on<BR>>> > >a<BR>>>
> > > board of that business? He has clearly stated in
<BR>>>too-numerous of<BR>>> > >writings,<BR>>> >
> > that he feels businesses or organizations that allow women
<BR>>>positions of<BR>>> > > > power are businesses that
are unmanly and should not be <BR>>>patronized.<BR>>> > >
><BR>>> > > > You said it; I'm just extending
it<BR>>>logically.<BR>>> > > ><BR>>> > >
><BR>>> > > > J :]<BR>>> > >
><BR>>> > > ><BR>>> > > ><BR>>> >
> ><BR>>> > > ><BR>>> > > >>From: "g.
crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>>> > > >>To: "Tom
Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>, "'Matt Decker'"<BR>>> > >
>><mattd2107@hotmail.com>, <privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>>>
> > >><vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> > >
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other
<BR>>>NSA Issues<BR>>> > > >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007
17:34:32 -0800<BR>>> > > >><BR>>> > >
>>hansen opined:<BR>>> > > >><BR>>> > >
>>"I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city
<BR>>>council)<BR>>> > >about<BR>>> > >
>>the food co-op that you<BR>>>mention. What are its
hiring practices? What<BR>>> > >is<BR>>> >
> >>the "track record" of that business? How else would
the <BR>>>community<BR>>> > >benefit<BR>>> > >
>>from having that business located here in Moscow (other than
<BR>>>lower<BR>>> > > >>prices)?"<BR>>> >
> >><BR>>> > > >>The above statement does not
reflect American free <BR>>>enterprise. The idea<BR>>> > >
>>that every idiot with an opinion should have a say in what a
<BR>>>privately<BR>>> > > >>owned business does before
the fact is lunacy. The city <BR>>>should have a<BR>>> >
>set<BR>>> > > >>of clearly defined guidelines which are
as non-restrictive <BR>>>as possible<BR>>> >
>and<BR>>> > > >>then get the heck out of the way.
Moonbats and wackadoos can <BR>>>express<BR>>> >
>their<BR>>> > > >>opinion after the fact
by<BR>>>spending their money with the enterprise or<BR>>> >
> >>staying away. The last time I checked, it was a businesses
<BR>>>job to<BR>>> > >provide<BR>>> > >
>>goods or services and make a profit. Not to be some sort of
<BR>>>social<BR>>> > >welfare<BR>>> > >
>>platform.<BR>>> > > >><BR>>> > >
>>g<BR>>> > > >>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>> > > >>From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>>> > > >>To: "'Matt Decker'"
<mattd2107@hotmail.com>;
<BR>>><privatejf32@hotmail.com>;<BR>>> > >
>><vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> > > >>Sent:
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:58 PM<BR>>> > > >>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other <BR>>>NSA
Issues<BR>>> > > >><BR>>> > >
>><BR>>> > > >> > Mat Decker stated:<BR>>>
> > >> ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> >> > "EX.
lets say a 150 k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with
<BR>>>20-30%<BR>>> > > >>lower<BR>>> > >
>> > prices. Do you really believe Moscow wouldn't support
<BR>>>that? What<BR>>> > >about<BR>>> > >
>> > costco?"<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> >
> >> > I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the
<BR>>>city council)<BR>>> > > >>about<BR>>> >
> >> > the food co-op that you mention. What are its
hiring <BR>>>practices?<BR>>> > >What<BR>>> > >
>>is<BR>>> > > >> > the "track record" of that
business? How else would the <BR>>>community<BR>>> >
> >>benefit<BR>>> > > >> > from having that
business located here in Moscow (other <BR>>>than lower<BR>>> >
> >>prices)?<BR>>> > > >> > Etc. Etc. Etc. . .
. As far as Costco is concerned, I
am<BR>>>unfamiliar<BR>>> > > >>with<BR>>> >
> >> > their business practices.<BR>>> > > >>
><BR>>> > > >> > Tom Hansen<BR>>> > >
>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>>
> > >> ><BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----<BR>>> > > >>
> From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com]<BR>>> > >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:47 PM<BR>>> > >
>> > To: thansen@moscow.com; privatejf32@hotmail.com;<BR>>>
> >vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>> > > >> > Subject:
RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and <BR>>>other
NSA<BR>>> > >Issues<BR>>> > > >>
><BR>>> > > >> > Tom,<BR>>> > > >>
><BR>>> > > >> > I thought we did this already. Please
call me Matt. Just <BR>>>as I hope I<BR>>> ><BR>>>
>can<BR>>> > > >> > call you Tom.<BR>>> >
> >> ><BR>>> > > >> > Tom I don't really feel
we need a super duper jumbo size <BR>>>walmart.<BR>>> > >
>>However, I<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> > >
>> > think doing a big business ban is or can be hypocritical.
<BR>>>EX. lets<BR>>> > >say a<BR>>> > >
>>150<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> > > >>
> k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30% lower <BR>>>prices.
Do you<BR>>> > > >>really<BR>>> > > >>
> believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about costco?<BR>>> >
> >> ><BR>>> > > >> > Do I shop at wally
world? Only when my wife makes me. I <BR>>>hate the<BR>>> >
>place.<BR>>> > > >>I<BR>>> > > >> >
think they sell shit, plaine and simple. They do serve a
<BR>>>purpose<BR>>> > >though.<BR>>> >
><BR>>> >>You<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>>
> > >> > and I both know those so I won't go into detail. Do I
<BR>>>think they will<BR>>> > > >>put a<BR>>>
> > >> > bunch of businesses out of business? NO.<BR>>>
> > >> ><BR>>> > > >> > Plus getting 15%
of their taxes is better then them going <BR>>>1/4 mile<BR>>> >
> >>across<BR>>> > > >> > the boarder, giving
Wash the money.<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> > >
>> > Matt<BR>>> > > >> ><BR>>> > >
>> ><BR>>> > > >> >>From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>>> > > >> >>To: "'Matt
Decker'" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>,<BR>>> >
><privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>>> > > >>
><BR>>> > > >>
>> <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> >
> >><BR>>> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey
Under Way and other NSA<BR>>> > >Issues<BR>>> > >
>> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:30:40 -0800<BR>>> > >
>> >><BR>>> > > >> >>However, Mr. Decker,
you yourself stated that by buying <BR>>>locally "more<BR>>> >
> >> >>importantly profits stay here". That is
simply not the <BR>>>case with<BR>>> > >
>>Wal-mart.<BR>>> > > >> >><BR>>> >
> >> >>Tom Hansen<BR>>> > > >>
>>Moscow, Idaho<BR>>> > > >> >><BR>>> >
> >> >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
<BR>>>intention of<BR>>> > > >>arriving<BR>>>
> > >> >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body,
but <BR>>>rather to skid<BR>>> > >in<BR>>> > >
>> >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other,<BR>>>body<BR>>> > >thoroughly<BR>>> > >
>>used<BR>>> > > >> >>up, totally worn out and
screaming 'WOO HOO. What a <BR>>>ride!'"<BR>>> > > >>
>><BR>>> > > >> >>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>> > > >> >>From: Matt Decker
[mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com]<BR>>> > > >> >>Sent:
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:23 PM<BR>>> > > >>
>>To: thansen@moscow.com; privatejf32@hotmail.com;<BR>>> >
>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>> > > >> >>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and <BR>>>other NSA<BR>>>
> >Issues<BR>>> > > >> >><BR>>> > >
>> >>Tom,<BR>>> > > >> >><BR>>> >
> >> >>LOL!!!!!!!!!<BR>>> > > >>
>><BR>>> > > >> >>Smart growth would be trying
to get businesses into the <BR>>>community and<BR>>> >
><BR>>> >>not<BR>>> > > >> >>trying to
push them away, along with our tax money.<BR>>> > > >>
>><BR>>> > > >> >>Matt<BR>>> > >
>> >><BR>>> > > >> >><BR>>> >
> >> >> >From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>>> > > >> >> >To:
"'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>,<BR>>> > >
>><privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>>> > > >>
>><BR>>> > > >> >>
> <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> >
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way
and <BR>>>other NSA<BR>>> > > >>Issues<BR>>>
> > >> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:01
-0800<BR>>> > > >> >> ><BR>>> > >
>> >> >Matt Decker stated:<BR>>> > > >>
>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > >> >> >"For
example: every time they buy something from this <BR>>>community
the<BR>>> > > >> >>dollar<BR>>> > >
>> >> >stays here. Whether its businesses ran by other church
<BR>>>members or<BR>>> > >if<BR>>> > >
>>it's<BR>>> > > >> >> >my<BR>>> >
> >> >> >business, which I have at least 4 members that have
<BR>>>purchased<BR>>> > > >>sprinklers<BR>>>
> > >> >> >from be. I in turn spend by money locally thus
keeping <BR>>>the money<BR>>> > >here.<BR>>> > >
>> >>Some<BR>>> > > >> >> >taxes stay
here but more importantly profits stay <BR>>>here."<BR>>> >
> >> >> ><BR>>> > > >> >> >Sounds
like a strong endorsement against Wal-Mart and <BR>>>in favor
of<BR>>> > > >>local<BR>>> > > >> >>
>businesses,<BR>>>Matt. Thanks. Those of us who
support smart growth<BR>>> > > >>
>>appreciate<BR>>> > > >> >> >your
comments.<BR>>> > > >> >> ><BR>>> > >
>> >> >Tom Hansen<BR>>> > > >> >>
>Moscow, idaho<BR>>> > > >> >> ><BR>>>
> > >> >> >"If not us, who?<BR>>> > >
>> >> >If not now, when?"<BR>>> > > >>
>> ><BR>>> > > >> >> >-
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