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<P><STRONG>Heavens to betsy! Do you mean hippie Daisy's topless carwash? That wasn't a real business. . . it was a joke. Just childish nonsense. If no one paid them any attention, they would have all gone away the first chilly day. </STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Ellen Roskovich</STRONG><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From: <I>"J Ford" <privatejf32@hotmail.com></I><BR>To: <I>vision2020@moscow.com</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:31:26 -0800</I><BR>>Well now, that is avoidance of a topic. Good going.<BR>><BR>>And yes he does campaign against businesses (remember the car wash?) He<BR>>certainly does in his sermons and writings.<BR>><BR>><BR>>J :]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>> >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32@hotmail.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues<BR>> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:18:05 -0800<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >To the best of my
knowledge Mr. Wilson has never actively campaigned to<BR>> >prevent any legitimate enterprise from starting up in Moscow. It appears<BR>> >that he and his congregation vote after the fact with their shopping<BR>> >dollars, as is their right.<BR>> ><BR>> >With regard to Wilson's "too numerous writings," when, as a mental<BR>> >exercise, I imagine you in one of the afore mentioned "positions of power"<BR>> >I wonder how anyone could possibly come to any other possible conclusion.<BR>> ><BR>> >I fail to see even a glimmering of logic in your post.<BR>> ><BR>> >g<BR>> >----- Original Message -----<BR>> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32@hotmail.com><BR>> >To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:39 PM<BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and
other NSA Issues<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > So someone disagreeing with business practices or with a business' lack<BR>> >of<BR>> > > community care, are to be labeled "wackadoos" and "moonbats"? Who wrote<BR>> > > that rule?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Does that mean Doug is wackadoo" or a "moonbat" because he doesn't like<BR>> >the<BR>> > > way some businesses allow women to be in charge or allows them to be on<BR>> >a<BR>> > > board of that business? He has clearly stated in too-numerous of<BR>> >writings,<BR>> > > that he feels businesses or organizations that allow women positions of<BR>> > > power are businesses that are unmanly and should not be patronized.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > You said it; I'm just extending it
logically.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > J :]<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@adelphia.net><BR>> > >>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>, "'Matt Decker'"<BR>> > >><mattd2107@hotmail.com>, <privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>> > >><vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues<BR>> > >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:32 -0800<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>hansen opined:<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>"I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)<BR>> >about<BR>> > >>the food co-op that you
mention. What are its hiring practices? What<BR>> >is<BR>> > >>the "track record" of that business? How else would the community<BR>> >benefit<BR>> > >>from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower<BR>> > >>prices)?"<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>The above statement does not reflect American free enterprise. The idea<BR>> > >>that every idiot with an opinion should have a say in what a privately<BR>> > >>owned business does before the fact is lunacy. The city should have a<BR>> >set<BR>> > >>of clearly defined guidelines which are as non-restrictive as possible<BR>> >and<BR>> > >>then get the heck out of the way. Moonbats and wackadoos can express<BR>> >their<BR>> > >>opinion after the fact by
spending their money with the enterprise or<BR>> > >>staying away. The last time I checked, it was a businesses job to<BR>> >provide<BR>> > >>goods or services and make a profit. Not to be some sort of social<BR>> >welfare<BR>> > >>platform.<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>g<BR>> > >>----- Original Message -----<BR>> > >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>; <privatejf32@hotmail.com>;<BR>> > >><vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:58 PM<BR>> > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues<BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> > >> > Mat Decker stated:<BR>> > >> ><BR>> >
>> > "EX. lets say a 150 k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30%<BR>> > >>lower<BR>> > >> > prices. Do you really believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What<BR>> >about<BR>> > >> > costco?"<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)<BR>> > >>about<BR>> > >> > the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices?<BR>> >What<BR>> > >>is<BR>> > >> > the "track record" of that business? How else would the community<BR>> > >>benefit<BR>> > >> > from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower<BR>> > >>prices)?<BR>> > >> > Etc. Etc. Etc. . . . As far as Costco is concerned, I am
unfamiliar<BR>> > >>with<BR>> > >> > their business practices.<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Tom Hansen<BR>> > >> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > >> > From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com]<BR>> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:47 PM<BR>> > >> > To: thansen@moscow.com; privatejf32@hotmail.com;<BR>> >vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > >> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA<BR>> >Issues<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Tom,<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > I thought we did this already. Please call me Matt. Just as I hope I<BR>>
>can<BR>> > >> > call you Tom.<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Tom I don't really feel we need a super duper jumbo size walmart.<BR>> > >>However, I<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > think doing a big business ban is or can be hypocritical. EX. lets<BR>> >say a<BR>> > >>150<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30% lower prices. Do you<BR>> > >>really<BR>> > >> > believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about costco?<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Do I shop at wally world? Only when my wife makes me. I hate the<BR>> >place.<BR>> > >>I<BR>> > >> > think they sell shit, plaine and simple. They do serve a purpose<BR>> >though.<BR>> >
>>You<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > and I both know those so I won't go into detail. Do I think they will<BR>> > >>put a<BR>> > >> > bunch of businesses out of business? NO.<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Plus getting 15% of their taxes is better then them going 1/4 mile<BR>> > >>across<BR>> > >> > the boarder, giving Wash the money.<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> > Matt<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > >> >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>,<BR>> ><privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>> > >> ><BR>> > >> >> <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >>
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA<BR>> >Issues<BR>> > >> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:30:40 -0800<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>However, Mr. Decker, you yourself stated that by buying locally "more<BR>> > >> >>importantly profits stay here". That is simply not the case with<BR>> > >>Wal-mart.<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>Tom Hansen<BR>> > >> >>Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of<BR>> > >>arriving<BR>> > >> >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid<BR>> >in<BR>> > >> >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other,
body<BR>> >thoroughly<BR>> > >>used<BR>> > >> >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>-----Original Message-----<BR>> > >> >>From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com]<BR>> > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:23 PM<BR>> > >> >>To: thansen@moscow.com; privatejf32@hotmail.com;<BR>> >vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > >> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA<BR>> >Issues<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>Tom,<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>LOL!!!!!!!!!<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>Smart growth would be trying to get businesses into the community and<BR>> >
>>not<BR>> > >> >>trying to push them away, along with our tax money.<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >>Matt<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > >> >> >To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107@hotmail.com>,<BR>> > >><privatejf32@hotmail.com>,<BR>> > >> >><BR>> > >> >> > <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA<BR>> > >>Issues<BR>> > >> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:01 -0800<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >Matt Decker stated:<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>>
> >> >> >"For example: every time they buy something from this community the<BR>> > >> >>dollar<BR>> > >> >> >stays here. Whether its businesses ran by other church members or<BR>> >if<BR>> > >>it's<BR>> > >> >> >my<BR>> > >> >> >business, which I have at least 4 members that have purchased<BR>> > >>sprinklers<BR>> > >> >> >from be. I in turn spend by money locally thus keeping the money<BR>> >here.<BR>> > >> >>Some<BR>> > >> >> >taxes stay here but more importantly profits stay here."<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >Sounds like a strong endorsement against Wal-Mart and in favor of<BR>> > >>local<BR>> > >> >> >businesses,
Matt. Thanks. Those of us who support smart growth<BR>> > >> >>appreciate<BR>> > >> >> >your comments.<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >Tom Hansen<BR>> > >> >> >Moscow, idaho<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >"If not us, who?<BR>> > >> >> >If not now, when?"<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >- Unknown<BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> ><BR>> > >> >> >=======================================================<BR>> > >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > >> >> > serving the communities of the
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