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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh yes Ms. Ford, I am serious as a stroke. I don't
care that the people who are employed at the various places in question are
members of the Wilson fold. They are residents of Moscow. People who own
property in Moscow. (and pay property tax in Moscow) They utilize the services
of other businesses in Moscow</FONT>.<FONT face=Arial size=2> Eat, shop and
recreate in Moscow, and despite your personal panics and phobias, over all,
these people are good for Moscow's economy and I welcome them as neighbors and
fellow citizens. I know that it's impossible for you to pass up an opportunity
to regurgitate your litany of anti-CC spleen, no matter what the topic might be
but, when it comes to answering the question of what's impeding healthy growth
in Moscow there can be no question that it's not your personal
bogeyman.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "J Ford" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>privatejf32@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:10
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike
again</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> <BR>> Jeez, Gary - you can't be serious! Not one of the
things you have mentioned <BR>> that Wilson "created" is for anyone else BUT
HIS CHURCH! They do not hire <BR>> out of the church, therefore the the
"payroll" created is bunk. The church <BR>> schools he has "created"
buy his own books that his own press publishes. He <BR>> fires or gets
rid of anyone that disagrees with him or whose wife displeases <BR>> him
(remember the Canon Press worker whose wife sent him an e-mail that Doug
<BR>> found displeasing?) Elders whose children do things Doug doesn't
like, get <BR>> canned. Only until that child is brought back into what
Doug thinks is in <BR>> line, do the elders get to be back on the big-boy's
playing field. WOMEN <BR>> are not allowed to hold any kind of position
of power. Taxes, which most <BR>> businesses have to pay, are not paid
by CC businesses when they claim <BR>> non-profit status. Some of the
BIGGEST buildings in the CBD don't pay taxes <BR>> because of this, leaving
the rest of the small businesses down there to pick <BR>> up the slack.
Heck, there are members of that church who plain and simply <BR>> don't pay
taxes because they don't agree with them. And just how many CCer <BR>>
businesses have gone under because Doug has a falling out with the "owner"
<BR>> of said business? Anyone eat at West of Paris lately - that is
NOT <BR>> associated with the church, that is?<BR>> <BR>> Establishing
illegal schools, not following the law in regards to same, <BR>> demanding
and getting special privileges in regards to zoning and building <BR>>
developments or permits, support of a serial child molester as well as <BR>>
another one that should STILL be in jail, not informing the public about
<BR>> these "men's" activities, promoting the dissolution of several
marriages <BR>> because Doug is unhappy with one of the spouses, demanding
the death of <BR>> certain populations within the city, condoning and
recommending slavery and <BR>> then two years after the publication of a book
on that subject, he tries a <BR>> lame excuse like "it really was all about
abortion"...yep - sounds like a <BR>> real benefit to the community, that
does.<BR>> <BR>> J :]<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>>>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>To:
"J Ford" <</FONT><A href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>privatejf32@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>,
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike
again<BR>>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:20:20
-0800<BR>>><BR>>>Lets see, on the one hand we have Nancy Chaney, Bob
Stout, and last but far<BR>>>from the least, Aaron Ament. All doing their
absolute level best to prevent<BR>>>any kind of growth in Moscow which
doesn't meet with their fantasy ideal <BR>>>for<BR>>>our town.
(think Mexican beach turtle herding) They enact ordinances which<BR>>>all
but scream retail development need not apply and do their best
to<BR>>>discourage growth of existing
businesses.<BR>>><BR>>>On the other hand we have Douglas Wilson,
instrumental in the development <BR>>>of<BR>>>Christ Church, Logos,
New St. Andrews, Cannon Press, etc. Establishments<BR>>>with employees,
customers, and a payroll. Establishments which, despite the<BR>>>contrary
droning of a small but vocal minority, are a benefit to our
city.<BR>>><BR>>>To imagine that Wilson even comes close to being
the destructive, anti-<BR>>>growth force in Moscow that our elected city
council and mayor represents <BR>>>is<BR>>>silly, even by comparison
to your previous standard, to which I become
<BR>>>sadly<BR>>>accustomed.<BR>>><BR>>>g<BR>>><BR>>>-----
Original Message -----<BR>>>From: "J Ford" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>privatejf32@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:17
PM<BR>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike
again<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >I met someone today that is part
of a non-religious group new to Moscow.<BR>>> > Since being here over
the past month, this person has been INUNDATED <BR>>>with<BR>>> >
information, warnings and cautions about Wilson and Christ Church.
Fact<BR>>> > is,<BR>>> > they and their family were warned
about Wilson, et al, BEFORE they even<BR>>> > got<BR>>> > here
by people who don't live in Moscow. They have just heard and
seen<BR>>> > some<BR>>> > of the mess that has been going on
through the paper, people's word of<BR>>> > mouth<BR>>> >
personal reactions to incidents, the Slavery Book, etc.<BR>>>
><BR>>> > Now THAT is just what this town needs - a reputation for
breeding people<BR>>> > like Wilson. It no wonder we don't have
more businesses looking here to<BR>>> > open or people
non-Wilsonista-connected to move and live here.<BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Good going, big guy...you're on the map and you're dragging us down
with<BR>>> > you. Ever think of moving to the desert? I
hear there's a nice bridge<BR>>> > down<BR>>> > in Arizona
that you might want to build a moat around and declare your<BR>>> >
kingdom from.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > J :]<BR>>>
><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> >>From: "Sue Hovey" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>suehovey@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>To: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>, "'Saundra
Lund'"<BR>>> >><</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sslund@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>CC: </FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>>>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!<BR>>>
>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:01:22 -1000<BR>>> >><BR>>>
>>Tom and Saundra,<BR>>> >><BR>>> >>I'll be happy
to bring coffee and donuts, and I'll even help straighten<BR>>>
>>the<BR>>> >>club room after meetings. However, I will
not take minutes, nor will I<BR>>> >>volunteer to call and inform
members of anything. And if you rent <BR>>>Kibbie<BR>>>
>>Dome, I'm reconsidering my willingness to help straighten the club
room.<BR>>> >><BR>>> >>But thanks for the
invite.<BR>>> >><BR>>> >>Sue<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >><BR>>> >><BR>>> >>-----
Original Message -----<BR>>> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>To: "'Saundra Lund'" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sslund@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "'Sue
Hovey'"<BR>>> >><</FONT><A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>suehovey@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>Cc: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:57 AM<BR>>> >>Subject:
RE: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!<BR>>> >><BR>>>
>><BR>>> >> > Yes, Sue -<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > Welcome to the Intoleristas.<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > Until you get better acquainted with the
neighborhood, may I suggest<BR>>> >>that<BR>>> >> >
Saundra show you around. As the newest addition to the rank and
<BR>>>file,<BR>>> >>you<BR>>> >> > will be
responsible for coffee and donut runs. We meet every 12th of<BR>>>
>> > Never.<BR>>> >> > So, my advice would be "Don't be
late."<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> > Guys, we really must
get a larger club house. I hear that Doug <BR>>>Wilson<BR>>>
>>can<BR>>> >> > get us a really sweet deal on renting the
Kibbie Dome. How about it?<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >>
> Welcome aboard,<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> > Tom
Hansen<BR>>> >> > Intolerista Sergeant-at-Arms<BR>>>
>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> >
"If not us, who?<BR>>> >> > If not now, when?"<BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> >> > - Unknown<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > -----Original Message-----<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > From: </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>> >>[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>>>
>> > On Behalf Of Saundra Lund<BR>>> >> > Sent:
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:21 PM<BR>>> >> > To: 'Sue
Hovey'<BR>>> >> > Cc: </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!<BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> >> > In part, Sue Hovey wrote:<BR>>>
>> > "Our relationship is finished, done. over."<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > WELCOME TO THE CLUB! We're glad to have
you :-)))<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>>
>> > Saundra Lund<BR>>> >> > Moscow, ID<BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> >> > The only thing necessary for the triumph
of evil is for good people <BR>>>to<BR>>> >>do<BR>>>
>> > nothing.<BR>>> >> > - Edmund Burke<BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> >> > ***** Original material contained herein
is Copyright 2006, Saundra<BR>>> >>Lund.<BR>>> >> >
Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020<BR>>>
>>forum<BR>>> >> > without the express written permission
of the author.*****<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > --<BR>>> >> > No virus found in
this incoming message.<BR>>> >> > Checked by AVG Free
Edition.<BR>>> >> > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database:
268.17.27/671 - Release Date:<BR>>> >>2/5/2007<BR>>> >>
> 4:48 PM<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>>
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