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<div>Andreas et. al.</div>
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<div>Don't be quiet! I've enjoyed your intelligent contributions to Vision2020... </div>
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<div>I just don't like people being called "nut jobs." I already gave a brief explanation why... </div>
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<div>Have I ever said something like this? Yes, numerous times. But I still think it is wrong, and I try to avoid viewing people this way...</div>
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<div>Everyone has their story to tell. When viewing the world through someones unique life history combined with their Weltanschauung, what seems "crazy" is often understandable:</div>
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<div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view#Religious_worldviews">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view#Religious_worldviews</a></div>
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<div>Though sometimes I have thought Wayne's posts were over the line, or annoying in one way or another, I have usually found he gives a thoughtful coherent account of his ideas.</div>
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<div>I suppose some of his posts have also been "pugilistic," as you put it.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/25/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andreas Schou</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com" target="_blank">ophite@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On 1/25/07, Ted Moffett <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank">
starbliss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Andreas et. al.<br>><br>> Why make a personalized derogatory attack on Wayne, when responding to<br>> content I authored to engage Chas in discussion on Wilson's interview?
<br>> Wayne's mental health was not specifically a part of that discussion in that <br>> post, nor do I think it relevant to the general discussion of Wilson's<br>> interview, nor do I think that you are qualified to make an assessment
<br>> regarding Wayne's mental health on a public list serve, or privately, for <br>> that matter.<br>><br>> I'd rather not have my Vision2020 post content linked with a declaration<br>> that someone is a "nut job," regardless of their mental health or the lack
<br>> thereof. I'd rather not read any Vision2020 posts that declare anyone to be <br>> a "nut job," regardless of what behavior they are engaging in that might<br>> suggest mental illness.<br>>
<br>> If you don't have the presence of mind to first check whether you are<br>> sending a private or list serve message before calling someone a "nut job" <br>> in an e-mail, an insulting and potentially very hurtful and demeaning
<br>> statement, that in an ideal world would never be uttered, especially if<br>> aimed at someone who really does have a mental illness, you might reconsider <br>> the wisdom of your psychoanalysis of Wayne's psyche, in light of your own
<br>> shortcomings.<br>><br>> Ted Moffett<br><br>Ted --<br><br>I've never been unclear that I'm uncomfortable with people trying to <br>enforce real, life-altering consequences against people for<br>disagreeing with them on the Internet. Wayne's done that, and I
<br>consider it a pretty important line to have crossed, even against<br>people whom I don't particularly care for, and whom I have never been <br>unclear that I don't particularly care for. Now, Wayne tells me he has
<br>a good explanation for this -- but I'm not sure what it would be.<br><br>I've also got to say that I've Sista Souljah'd Wayne a little <br>unfairly: Dale's attempt to get Tom fired, and Doug's below-the-belt
<br>sniping at J Ford cross exactly the same line in exactly the same way.<br>The fact that I work in a somewhat obscure sector and that very few <br>people here actually know me has, I think, prevented people from going<br>
after me the saem way, but I've got a fairly long written record.<br><br>I've always been a, well, pugilistic participant in the dialog here. <br>I'll take credit for that. But I'd like to think that I always try to
<br>stick to the Marquis of Queensbury rules<br><br>All of this, though, is just beating around the bush; trying to avoid<br>or qualify an apology, which, frankly, is what I owe Wayne. His font <br>annoys me, but I've never been known to come to blows over typography
<br>before. And I'm a little more sensitive to what I feel he does wrong<br>because we are effectively on the same side. Still, I've tried to play <br>Internet Police and made a mess of it, exacerbating exactly what I was
<br>complaining about. I'll be quiet now.<br><br>-- ACS<br></blockquote></div><br>