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Greetings:<br><br>
As usual, I learn from Keely every time she writes wisely about
Christianity. For what it's worth, you can read about the reasons
why I did not use the term "fundamentalism" in my book <i>God,
Reason, and the Evangelicals</i> at
<a href="http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre.htm" eudora="autourl">
www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre.htm</a>. Click out the first
chapter, as well as any other chapter that may interest you. You
can also read why I think the term "evangelical" does not fit
Doug Wilson at
<a href="http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/evang.htm" eudora="autourl">
www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/evang.htm</a>.<br><br>
In the book I'm now writing "The Origins of Religious
Violence," I've found that calling Muslim radicals
"evangelicals" just doesn't sound right, so I have returned, as
all other scholar have done, to "fundamentalism" to describe
the parallels I detect between "Christian nationalists and
reconstructionists" and Islamic fundamentalists. You can read
my essay "Chilling Parallels between Christian and Islamic
Fundamentlists" at
<a href="http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/parallels.htm" eudora="autourl">
www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/parallels.htm</a>. Doug Wilson & Co.
are exhibit #1 in the case I make there.<br><br>
Nick Gier, intolerista par excellence<br>
Intolerance is a virtue if one is intolerant of bigotry, discrimination,
dishonesty, ugly manners, and deception<br><br>
At 11:10 AM 1/25/2007, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Well, I'd love to hear from
Genovese himself on this one. I'm sure he would also agree with me
that "fundamentalist" is not an accurate description of
Wilson's theology. Wilson's theology generally embraces the
historically agreed-upon fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith,
but adds to them some doctrinal perspectives that historical and
contemporary "fundamentalists" would find repugnant.<br><br>
The term "fundamentalist" means much more than assent or
opposition to specific doctrines, however. From both a historical
and a religious perspective, it also encompasses a worldview that
disdains modernism, higher education, and culture while exhibiting a
fairly rigid legalism (don't drink, don't smoke, don't dance,
etc.). I could argue that Wilson dislikes modernism in some forms,
seems to find nothing of value in either higher secular education or even
evangelical seminaries other than his own, and spends a lot of time
mocking contemporary culture, but your daddy's fundamentalists would be
aghast at his enthusiasm for the finer things of gastronomy, art,
literature and bacchanalia.<br>
<br>
That said, William Ramsey is one of my heroes for his work in exposing
the academic dreck that is "Southern Slavery As It Was" and
"Black and Tan," and for calling a paleo- or neo-Confederate
spade a spade. Thanks, Dr. Ramsey.<br><br>
Now, let's hope Dr. Genovese will enlighten us and then face honest
critique from whatever side he angers with his views. Any hope that
Wilson himself would repudiate his earlier work seems to be as unlikely
as, well, a slave in the American South feeling affirmed and secure in
his participation in the quintessential American example of Biblical
Christianity Wilson insists was the case.<br><br>
keely<br><br>
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From: "News of Christ Cult"
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To: <Vision2020@moscow.com><br>
Subject: [Vision2020] Historians in the News<br>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:52:33 -0500 (EST)<br><br>
<a href="http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/31873.html" eudora="autourl">
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/31873.html</a><br><br>
Historians in the NewsEugene Genovese: An Idaho pastor accused of
racism claims Genovese backs his view of slavery<br>
Source: Email to HNN by William L. Ramsey, assistant professor of history
at the University of Idaho (11-15-06)Fundamentalist<br>
Pastor Douglas Wilson of Moscow, Idaho, may have fallen short in his<br>
first attempt to overturn the last fifty years of academic
scholarship<br>
on slavery, which he has described variously as “abolitionist<br>
propaganda” and “civil rights propaganda,” but he intends to win
the<br>
war. A supportive comment from !<br>
Eugene Genovese on the back cover of<br>
Wilson’s new self-published book on slavery, Black and Tan, appears
to<br>
be the center- piece of the new battle plan.<br><br>
<br><br>
The “blurb” has been doing yeomen’s duty in fundamentalist and<br>
neo-Confederate circles for the past year, but it saw its first
service<br>
in mainstream public dialogue recently when Pastor Wilson published
a<br>
guest editorial in the November 5 issue of the Moscow-Pullman Daily<br>
News. Angered that historians from the University of Idaho, myself<br>
included, remained critical of his happy portrait of southern
slavery,<br>
Wilson pointed out that his work has now received a positive
“academic<br>
response.” Eugene Genovese, he claimed, “one of America’s
first-rate<br>
historians,” had concluded that Wilson “has a strong grasp of
the<br>
essentials of slavery.”<br><br>
<br><br>
Concerned that the nationwide curriculum might now be obsolete, I<br>
visited the Daily News offices and req!<br>
uested a follow-up investigation.<br>
Does Genovese also endorse, for i<br>
nstance, the original pro-slavery<br>
pamphlet, Southern Slavery, As It Was, which I myself dismembered in
a<br>
review that can be found here?<br>
Or has Genovese merely endorsed the watered down version that he
edited<br>
in order to get the Confederate partisans up to speed, which I<br>
dismembered here? The<br>
confusion is genuine, since Wilson’s pledge that he has
discontinued<br>
publication of Southern Slavery, As It Was, is only correct with<br>
respect to his own garage. The pamphlet continues to be published<br>
verbatim in its entirety by Bluebonnet Press in the textbook, The
War<br>
Between the States, which is currently being marketed on the front
page<br>
of Wilson’s website to unsuspecting home-schooled children.<br><br>
<br><br>
Will the Daily News follow up the story? Will their tell-all
interview<br>
with Eugene Genovese sink our national historiography? Will he
refuse!<br><br>
to answer his phone?<br><br>
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