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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes Nick, and under our laws in 1850, black folks
could be held as slaves. The point is professor, that it is high time the
rights the rest of us enjoy are extended to today's disenfranchised: the
unborn. How disappointing to see you on the wrong side of history this
time. Would you have rationalized the Dred Scott decision in its
day?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tragic.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-T</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ngier@uidaho.edu href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu">Nick Gier</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tonytime@clearwire.net
href="mailto:tonytime@clearwire.net">Tony</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] One More
"Killer" Released Because of DNA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Greetings:<BR><BR>Under our laws the crime of murder can happen
only against moral and legal persons. Our religious, moral, and legal
tradition does not recognize first and second trimester fetuses as
persons. Once again I provide the link for my essay on abortion: <A
href="http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/abortion.htm"
eudora="autourl">www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/abortion.htm</A>.<BR><BR>Fetuses
are of course biological human beings from conception on, but so are thousands
of other animal species. As a vegetarian I'm quite willing to shift to a
consistent pro-life position, but I believe that most people are not willing
to do this. The moral ball is in their court, and it's their
serve.<BR><BR>Veggie Burgers Forever!<BR><BR>Nick Gier<BR><BR>At 09:22 AM
1/24/2007, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Nick, I was heartened to see you
change your mind with regard to abortion. You are absolutely correct that
the state should not be in the business of premeditated murder, especially
in the case of those who are innocent in EVERY case. It is such a joy to see
reason and compassion prevail. Best, -T ----- Original Message
----- From: <nickgier@adelphia.net> To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: [Vision2020] One More
"Killer" Released Because of DNA > Greetings: > > Fortunately, most
DNA exonerations are happening with prisoners who are > still
alive. The real injustice, however, is those, now over 100, who >
were executed before the tests could be done. > > The state should not
be in the business of premeditated murder, especially > if it cannot be
sure of that its victims are guilty. > > Nick Gier > > January
24, 2007, NY Times > With DNA From Exhumed Body, Man Finally Wins Freedom
> By FERNANDA SANTOS > > AUBURN, N.Y., Jan. 23 — Roy Brown, who
spent 15 yeears in prison on a > murder conviction and uncovered evidence
while there that linked another > man to the crime, was released from
prison on Tuesday after DNA tests on > the other man’s exhumed body
matched saliva on a nightshirt at the crime > scene. > > After 15
years behind bars, Mr. Brown stepped out of court into a light > snowfall
and gently pushed his way through a cluster of relatives who vied > for
his attention. The reception was fine, he said, but he is too sick > with
liver disease to stand on his feet for long. > > “Changes have got
to be made, man,” Mr. Brown said later at a lawyer’s > office across
the street, answering questions in a monotone as he rested > awkwardly in
a black swivel chair. “They say the wheels of justice move > slowly,
but you know what? The wheels of justice are flat.” > > Mr. Brown,
46, is the eighth person in New York State exonerated through > DNA
evidence in the past 13 months, more than in any other state during > the
same period. > > The DNA tests that freed him confirmed the results of
his own jailhouse > investigation, in which he discovered documents that
incriminated Barry > Bench, a volunteer firefighter, in the murder of
Sabina Kulakowski, 49, a > social worker who had lived with Mr. Bench’s
brother until months before > her death. Earlier DNA tests conducted by
Mr. Brown’s lawyers linked Mr. > Bench’s daughter, Katherine
Eckstadt, to the genetic code lifted from the > saliva on Ms.
Kulakowski’s nightshirt. > >
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<P></X-SIGSEP><FONT size=2>"Truth is the summit of being; justice is the
application of it to human affairs."<BR>--Ralph Waldo Emerson<BR><BR>"Abstract
truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings who represent it, by
proving their readiness to die for it."<BR> --Mohandas
Gandhi<BR><BR>"Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system
cannot be discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying each
part by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the whole and on the
interconnection between the parts. The same is true of our intellectual life.
It is impossible to make a clear cut between science, religion, and art. The
whole is never equal simply to the sum of its various parts." --Ma</FONT><FONT
size=1>x Planck<BR><BR></FONT>Nicholas F. Gier<BR>Professor Emeritus,
Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho<BR>1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID
83843<BR><A href="http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/home.htm"
eudora="autourl">http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/home.htm<BR></A>208-882-9212/FAX
885-8950<BR>President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO<BR><A
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