<DIV>David,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why spend even more government resources and the time of someone else on the government payroll? Why not just publicly pressure the person to stop the behavior? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not everything is worth prosecuting and taking $100,000s to investigate. If publicizing it gets them to stop the destructive behavior; mission accomplished. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan <BR><BR><B><I>david sarff <davesway@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi Donovan,<BR>I agree with not looting the treasury. If Dale has a legitimate issue and <BR>facts he needs to at least show that he has followed a chain of command with <BR>complaint processes and show acceptance or denial in those circles.<BR>Dave<BR><BR><BR>>><BR>>David,<BR>><BR>> What do you expect to see as
evidence? Just curious. The University does <BR>>not monitor every computer on campus, it would not happen. Dale has offered <BR>>to send anyone a copy of his blog log in file so you can see for yourself. <BR>>If a computer data log is not evidence, and an email indicating that log is <BR>>not evidence, and the person admitted to visiting that site, then there can <BR>>never be evidence of anyone visiting website.<BR>><BR>> It is entirely possible that someone could open a window for a website <BR>>and keep it open all day while working on their computer. Any ten year old <BR>>can do that. So it is not an extraordinary claim.<BR>><BR>> You can draw whatever conclusions you want based on the evidence. To me, <BR>>someone making this up and fabricating 378 pages of false accessing files, <BR>>and finding somebody's IP address at home and work, just to prove someone <BR>>was visiting their website seems a bit far fetched to
me.<BR>><BR>> Best,<BR>><BR>> Donovan<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>david sarff <DAVESWAY@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dale’s info is suspect. Tom is acting coy.<BR>>No way Tom can waste the level of cash that Dale insinuates and not caught<BR>>hell by now.<BR>>Unless Dale can present a clean accusation. There is nothing to this story <BR>>.<BR>>Dave<BR>><BR>><BR>> >Paul,<BR>> ><BR>> > Your automatic refresh theory is a good one. Unfortunately, if it did,<BR>> >the log would show a refreshing of the page every 5, 10, 15, 30, 60, etc.<BR>> >minutes. The log shows random times, not every exact few minutes from the<BR>> >original log in.<BR>> ><BR>> > I doubt someone would keep the page open intentionally all day everyday,<BR>> >and manually hit refresh randomly throughout the day. Even if someone <BR>>did,<BR>> >it would indicate a constant monitoring of the
blog rather than working.<BR>> >Why keep refreshing a page you are not watching? 30,000+ file accesses is<BR>> >excessive, I know, that is why it was brought up. I know most people surf<BR>> >the net at work once in a while, but this a serious abuse of the <BR>>privilege,<BR>> >IMHO.<BR>> ><BR>> > Thanks for the alternative theory though.<BR>> ><BR>> > Donovan<BR>> ><BR>> >Paul Rumelhart wrote:<BR>> > Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Dale did not say Tom visited his blog 31,000 times. Dale said his<BR>> > > computer accessed 31,000 files in the last year. There is a<BR>> > > difference. Each time you visit a site, one to ten files can open up<BR>> > > at the same time. A photo for example can count as one file. It is<BR>> > > easy to determine the number of visits by looking at the time of the<BR>> > > access. If you have have 2 files
accessed at the same time, that would<BR>> > > be one visit.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Someone on that computer visits the Dale's Blog several times most<BR>> > > days of the week, as many as twenty or thirty times in a seven hour<BR>> > > period between 7:30 am and 2:30 pm.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > How can access that many files? Let's do that math;<BR>> > ><BR>> > > 20 visits a day, 5 times a week equals 100 visits a week. If each<BR>> > > visit opened 7 files (including photos and graphs) that would be 700<BR>> > > files opened in one week, over 46 weeks of work in the year, that<BR>> > > would equals 32,200 accesses.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > This pretty much is the habit of logging in to Dale's blog from that<BR>> > > IP address if you look at the log of the file as I have.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > If a person were to spend their entire six hour
shift monitoring a<BR>> > > Blog, they could hit a site 20 times in a day.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > What is the point of this? The point is that someone on the taxpayer's<BR>> > > dime is monitoring a non related site, and is doing so against UI<BR>> > > policy. May I remind people also, that this is just one website being<BR>> > > accessed by that computer. Is it possible this same computer is going<BR>> > > to other sites as well during the day on the taxpayer's dime?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I as a taxpayer, don't want to be paying someone to monitor Dale's<BR>> > > Blog. What a waste of UI resources.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Donovan<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >If he simply loads the page, looks for a new blog entry, and leaves his<BR>> >browser open, then it's not that bad. He just hits "refresh" every so<BR>> >often, possibly between doing other things. Just
refresh, read a new<BR>> >comment or two, then come back to it in a half-hour or so. It's also<BR>> >possible he's using RSS feeds if the blog provides them, so it's not<BR>> >necessarily clear that he is even reading them at the times they are<BR>> >accessed. His RSS reader might be configured to check for new content<BR>> >on a regular interval.<BR>> ><BR>> >If he is spending a significant amount of time reading the blog 20 times<BR>> >a day every day instead of doing his work, then you may have a point.<BR>> >But let's not jump to conclusions just yet.<BR>> ><BR>> >Paul<BR>> ><BR>> >=======================================================<BR>> >List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> >serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> >http://www.fsr.net<BR>> >mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>
>=======================================================<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >---------------------------------<BR>> >Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels<BR>> >in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.<BR>><BR>><BR>> >=======================================================<BR>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >=======================================================<BR>><BR>>_________________________________________________________________<BR>>FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo – buy and sell with people<BR>>you
know<BR>>http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06<BR>><BR>>=======================================================<BR>>List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>>http://www.fsr.net<BR>>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>=======================================================<BR>><BR>><BR>>---------------------------------<BR>>Don't pick lemons.<BR>>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Get Hilary Duff’s homepage with her photos, music, and more. <BR>http://celebrities.live.com<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p> 
<hr size=1>
<a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49678/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL"> Get your own web address.</a><br> Have a HUGE year through <a href="
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49678/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL">Yahoo! Small Business.</a>