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<DIV>Mark writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=125300210-19012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"I
don't know if it's apathy, ignorance of unwillingness. The Rotary Pavilion
(ice rink) and LHS have been known to need help for years. What are the
citizens of Moscow & Latah County to do? Are they to be
pro-active..."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I agree. In my opinion the Ice Rink is a valuable asset for the city
and county for many reasons.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are three parties involved: the city, the county, and the ice rink
folks. They all share part of the blame for the present situation. I
hope this problem can be resolved.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Most of us would like to see a more proactive on the part of those we hire
and elect to do the public business on a great number of issues/problems.
Both the city and the county are still faced with the zoning issue of
designating more appropriate commercial and light industrial zoning space and a
host of some other growth related issues.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps, as Mark suggests, some of the fault lies with us ordinary
citizens. We might start letting the elected officials know more
vociferously what we want and how badly we want it. We should also let
them know, especially in the City of Moscow, that we expect a day's work for a
day's pay at a hardy pace of work from <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>all</FONT></STRONG> hired hands.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>J Ford commented upon the problem of having a city manager who does not
live in the city (nor in the same state). I generally do not agree with
laws that require all city/county etc employees to live within the entity that
employs them. However, I do think that city management/administration
would improve if the city manager and the department heads were required to live
within the city. When they are forced by their residency to enjoy or
suffer the results of their labors and hear about them from their friends and
neighbors, they will likely have a greater appreciation for the issues/problems
and are likely to be more sensitive to, empathetic of, and more anxious to
effectively deal with problems that residents must live with 365/24/7.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=baukunst@moscow.com href="mailto:baukunst@moscow.com">mark seman</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 19, 2007 2:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] FW: Moscow Ice Rink</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=125300210-19012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
don't know if it's apathy, ignorance of unwillingness. The Rotary
Pavillion (ice rink) and LHS have been known to need help for years. What
are the citizens of Moscow & Latah County to do? Are they to be
pro-active to save and expand upon what they have, or do they just not know
what's going on, or maybe they just don't want it. I know it's all three,
actually there's a fourth - those that tried to help. A lot of effort has
gone into these Places. I hope the scales tip positively and people don't
give up. Maybe it's just not the right time, and discussions in the near
future will help determine that. Maybe use funds from the <FONT
color=#000000>John Dickinson Philanthropic Fund for Sustainablity</FONT><FONT
color=#0000ff>.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=125300210-19012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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architect</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Tom Ivie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:58
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] FW:
Moscow Ice Rink<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I think that the city has been more than
fair in regards to the ice rink SUP. They have given the county numerous
opportunities to rectify the violation. The county, to my knowledge,
hasn't ever offered to meet with city officials to discuss an amicable
resolution. The city is the one that has come forward and taken the
initiative. The city could have acted sooner on the
violation,legally as soon as the violation occurred in Oct. This
recent cease and desist order was pretty generous also. They gave the
county until the 25th to work something out when they could have shut the
rink down right then and there (they gave them a stay of
execution). This gives the city time to work something out with the
county. I am confident that the Mayor and City Council are doing the
right thing here and optimistic that an agreement will
be made before the 25th deadline. I don't believe that the
Mayor or anyone on City Council wants to shut down the rink. At least it
didn't sound like it as I watched the council meeting Tuesday
night. I am sure it did not make Joel Plaskon's job rewarding to
have to point out that the violation was there or Randy Fife's day to
finally have to enforce the terms of the
SUP. <BR><BR><B><I>Jerry Weitz
<gweitz@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">As
one of the folks involved in the founding of the ice rink, I am not
surprised with this city's government. The same thing was done to the
Alt. School and its defense cost a little over $12,000 in a Neighorhood
Business Zone. The city's action against the Alt. School was is violation of
state and federal law. I believe that you will find the 1912 (without
safe sidewalks) is in violation of city code, but that does not seem to
matter (I am a supporter of the 1912). Sometimes looking past a minor
detail at certain junctures is the best for the common good. The county is
not flush with money. I believe it is time for a significant change in city
government. <BR>Jerry <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>At 11:13 AM
1/18/07, Tom Ivie wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I am sure that the first
inclination is to be upset with the city because they are the
enforcer. Take a step back and analyze the situation though.
The rink folks are caught in the middle for sure. The city has to
enforce the violated SUP. The conditions of the SUP were agreed to
by both the city and county. It is up to the county to comply with
those conditions. The county knew that non-compliance means violating the
SUP and what the consequences of that is. The county has known for some
time now that the city would have to do this and they should have been
doing something, anything (setup a meeting, etc.) to try and rectify the
situation. unfortunately, it is the ice rink (a third party) that
will feel any reprocussions from the situation. I believe it is a
bump in the road, though, and not the demise of the ice rink. It
looks like the city is trying to move forward and work with the county to
resolve the situation as soon as possible. This is evident by the
city setting up a meeting with the county commissioners on the
matter. I am sure there are a whole lot of "not happy" ice rink
users right now and they have good reason to be upset.
<BR><BR><B><I>Chris Storhok <cstorhok@co.fairbanks.ak.us></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
<DL><BR>
<DD>Visionaries,<BR>
<DD>My question to all of you is how in the heck does this happen:<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Moscow issues cease-and-desist order for
ice<BR>
<DD>rink<BR>
<DD>> County has until Jan. 25 to reach agreement on use permit<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> Staff report<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - Page Updated at 05:41:27 PM<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The city of Moscow has issued a cease-and-desist order for the
Moscow<BR>
<DD>> Rotary Veteran's Memorial Pavilion ice rink at the Latah
County<BR>
<DD>> Fairgrounds.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> A letter signed by City Attorney Randy Fife outlining the order
was<BR>
<DD>> presented to county commissioners during their Wednesday
meeting.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The ice rink will be forced to close Jan. 25 at 5 p.m. unless
county<BR>
<DD>> commissioners can reach an agreement with the city.
Commissioners have<BR>
<DD>> scheduled a public meeting for 2:30 p.m. Friday to discuss
the<BR>
<DD>situation.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The city recently notified Latah County it was in violation of
its<BR>
<DD>special<BR>
<DD>> use permit to operate the ice rink and the Latah County
Fairgrounds<BR>
<DD>because<BR>
<DD>> it had not defined its parking area around the facility and
failed to<BR>
<DD>pave<BR>
<DD>> the rink's parking lot by the specified date.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The ice rink operates under a special use permit in the R3, or
duplex<BR>
<DD>zone.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The county had until Sept. 30 to complete the paving project
under<BR>
<DD>> stipulations of the special use permit it signed in October
2005.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The county has sought permanent status for the fairgrounds for
years.<BR>
<DD>Every<BR>
<DD>> two to five years it must reapply for a special use permit to
keep the<BR>
<DD>> grounds open.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The county has put down more gravel in the parking lot and
plans to<BR>
<DD>install<BR>
<DD>> parking bumpers to show the city it is serious about meeting
the<BR>
<DD>special<BR>
<DD>> use permit requirements.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney said Fife signed the cease-and-desist
order<BR>
<DD>> Wednesday afternoon.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> "I think it's in keeping with enforcing the city's laws. It did
not<BR>
<DD>slam<BR>
<DD>> the door for possibilities of the ice rink," she said. "This is
a<BR>
<DD>wake-up<BR>
<DD>> call and I hope for the best."<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> Chaney said the previous warnings had not resulted in
compliance by<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD>> county.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> "I am hopeful that a workable, mutually agreeable solution may
be the<BR>
<DD>end<BR>
<DD>> result," she said.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> The City Council voted 3-2 Tuesday to try to organize a meeting
with<BR>
<DD>Latah<BR>
<DD>> County and Palouse Ice Rink Association officials to work
toward a<BR>
<DD>> solution.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> Chaney said the meeting is still being planned, but a time has
not<BR>
<DD>been<BR>
<DD>> set.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>> County commissioners Jack Nelson and Tom Stroschein declined
comment<BR>
<DD>on<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD>> matter Wednesday evening. Both said they hadn't had a chance to
read<BR>
<DD>> through the cease-and-desist order.<BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>><BR>
<DD>Chris S.<BR>
<DD>N.P. AK<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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