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Well, all I can say to counter that is that almost every time I have to
wipe someone's system where I work because they get popups
left-and-right and it's so infested with spyware that it can hardly
function, IE or Outlook have been involved. It doesn't happen to
everyone, and it can of course be mitigated if you are careful what you
run from untrusted sites and keep up-to-date on your patches, but I'm
not making this stuff up. <br>
<br>
The people I've persuaded to move to Firefox and Thunderbird generally
don't have problems again. People who don't take the advice will
sometimes need another wipe of their harddrive and a reinstall.<br>
<br>
So when I mention these things, I have actual instances of problems
that they would have helped solve in mind that I have had to deal with
over the years. Your mileage may vary.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Paranoia,
self-destroya.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I have been
running Windows XP operating
system, MS Outlook, and Outlook Express for a long time. I have yet to
experience any security violations on either of my computers here at
home. I
also run Norton Anti-Virus (keeping my online subscription current for
virus
definitions) and Symantec firewall. Both machines are on DSL and are,
therefore,
updated constantly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I
upload/download files virtually every
day. The only “slow down” that I have experienced were due
primarily running out of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Corona</st1:place></st1:City>
beer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">My guess is
that Microsoft R&D is
aware and extremely familiar with any/all online threats.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">However, if
you feel more secure by
changing your web browser, reinstalling a different operating system,
virtually
reformatting your hard-drive, and coating your motorcycle helmet with
tinfoil
to prevent hackers from stealing your thoughts, go for it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:City w:st="on"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font
color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">idaho</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">"Life should NOT be a journey
to the grave with
the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved
body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the
other, body
thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'"</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Art Deco<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January
15, 2007
8:21 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Vision 2020<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Vision2020] Stay out
of jail - beware of spyware</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Excellent advice from Paul.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">One additional recommendation:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Get a program that removes
traces of internet browsing
and erases all the data from all deleted files. Deleting a file only
removes the entry from the disc directory. To be safe, the data in the
file needs to be erased also. It is also important to periodically
erase
all data from a disc that is not in a file. I use Windows Washer, but
there are other programs which do the same. Set the program to keep
all
discs on your system clean.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">W.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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