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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Donovan, I agree that striving for alternative water
sources, such as a reservoir, is an idea worth pursuing. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I am not sure that your notion, to tax new businesses and
secure new water with those funds, is realistic, as the potential sources of
water other than a reservoir are not readily available and would be tremendously
expensive if they were. Simply put, depending on where you were suggesting
we find this new water, it may not be made accessible based only on some
new taxes from businesses. The cost of transporting water from the Snake
or Palouse Rivers may not be met by any amount of new businesses. The
water in our local aquifers cannot be limitless, and what science there is on
the topic supports the idea that the aquifers are decreasing, not
increasing. So your increased supply analogy may be nigh impossible to
achieve in a cost effective manner. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That being said, a reservoir has a great deal of promise,
seems potentially feasible, and ought to be pursued. Admittedly, a
reservoir is a more limited "increased supply" solution than the
old idea of tapping the Snake River. But tapping the Snake is probably not
economically feasible and may not be legally feasible, either, given the
competing claims for that water. Hopefully our Council will proceed
forthwith on the feasibility studies for a nearby reservoir as a potential
palliative measure for some of our water concerns.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>However, we also need to make conservation efforts to
minimize the loss of scarce water resources that currently are frittered
away, in many cases quite carelessly. Recall the discussion here last
spring and summer about establishing a water budget, and the comments, that I
hope I recall correctly, to the effect that Seattle has grown dramatically
while actually decreasing its water
consumption fairly significantly. Such conservation efforts make
eminent sense here, and we ought to pursue them, too.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bruce Livingston</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth
Policies Don't Apply to Whitman (or dothey?)</DIV>
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<DIV>Moscow would be better off if it started planning for alternative sources
of water now. I think using the current bad tasting water in Moscow as a
resource for community growth to gain wealth to tap a new source would be a
better plan than trying to preserve the current water supply. </DIV>
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<DIV>In other words, build industry, tax the industries, then use the taxes to
tap into a newer fresher water source. The killing and severely limiting of
growth and tax sources in the hopes of keeping the limited and diminishing
current source is a futile and counter productive strategy currently being
sought by many in the community. Eventually, the city is going to run out
water and it will not have the tax revenue to tap another source. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Bruce and Jean Livingston
<jeanlivingston@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have to disagree with Murf and the Daily News
editorial board on this one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Development in the Whitman County corridor affects not
only Whitman County, but Pullman within it, and Moscow and Latah County,
adjacent to it. I disagree that Moscow has no right to comment on the
effects of neighboring developments that have an impact upon us, even if
they are in another geo-political subdivision that is arbitrarily drawn
regardless of the underlying aquifer boundaries. So long as we follow
the procedures of the other political subdivision, our voice should be heard
on issues that have an effect upon us. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Conversely, it seems to me that people from Whitman
County have a right to be heard on issues that may have an effect upon them,
even if the situs of the particular project is in Latah County.
Proposed reservoirs, for example...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The insensitivity of some Pullmanites to concerns
about our aquifer are reflected by the following comments taken from a story
in Wednesday's Moscow Pullman Daily News:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>"Councilwoman Ann Heath said the city must lay claim
to water soon, before turf wars occur with Latah and Whitman counties and
the city of Moscow. </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>" 'That’s all the more reason ... to set up wells,
so we can grow the way we want to grow,' she said. 'How do we want to
spend our water? I think we have enough water to make good choices about.'
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Keeping an eye on the water hogs across the
state line is important. And the policy should not be "let's get ours,
before they get it," despite Ms. Heath's thoughts to the
contrary. We ought to be trying to influence water policy regionally,
and that means commenting on issues that affect our water, even if the
proposed well is a few hundred yards across the state line from Moscow in
Whitman County, or in Pullman.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Bruce Livingston</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To: "Vision 2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:47 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth Policies Don't
Apply to Whitman (or dothey?)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>> >From
today's (January 13, 2007) Moscow-Pullman Daily News -<BR>> <BR>>
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<BR>> OUR VIEW: Moscow's growth policies don't apply to Whitman<BR>>
<BR>> By Murf Raquet, for the editorial board<BR>> <BR>> Saturday,
January 13, 2007 - Page Updated at 10:20:50 PM<BR>> <BR>> Political
boundaries on the Palouse are clear.Moscow city limits extend to<BR>> the
Washington state border as does the eastern edge of Whitman County. <BR>>
<BR>> Both entities have their own regulations to follow when it comes
to<BR>> development. Often those rules are similar in that they require
development<BR>> plans to undergo sufficient public scrutiny to protect
the environment. <BR>> <BR>> It's time for Moscow to recognize that
Whitman County is perfectly capable<BR>> of determining how and what
acreage is developed within it borders. <BR>> <BR>> Whitman County has
all but cleared the way for the Hawkins Companies of<BR>> Boise to
develop a 600,000-square-foot retail center along the<BR>> Pullman-Moscow
corridor. The center would abut the state line and Moscow.<BR>> <BR>>
Moscow registered concerns about the effects the development would have
on<BR>> the aquifers, wetlands and traffic. <BR>> <BR>> Those
concerns and others were addressed through the Washington State<BR>>
Environmental Policy Act, an environmental assessment procedure that is
one<BR>> of the more stringent in the nation. <BR>> <BR>> Whitman
County had no legal obligation to consider Moscow's concerns but did<BR>>
so because of Moscow's proximity to the development. <BR>> <BR>> That
was the right thing to do. <BR>> <BR>> "Moscow is our very close
neighbor," said Whitman County Prosecutor Denis<BR>> Tracy. "We have
taken extensive steps to take their concerns into<BR>> consideration. If
they have any concerns that are not part of the SEPA<BR>> review the
county hopes Moscow will pick up the phone and we can talk about<BR>>
their concerns." <BR>> <BR>> Dialogue is a fine way to resolve
problems. <BR>> <BR>> Now, Moscow must accept the SEPA conclusion and
not drag the issue through<BR>> the court system. <BR>> <BR>>
Moscow has every right to determine growth policy within its city limits.
<BR>> <BR>> We hope the city can restrain itself in the future if the
urge to impose its<BR>> standards elsewhere pops up again.<BR>>
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<BR>> My concern is not with what facilities are built on Washington's
side of the<BR>> line, but what resources are used by those
resources. As has been discussed<BR>> here on Vision 2020, Moscow
and Pullman share a common aquifer. The primary<BR>> concern, in
relation to the aquifer and facilities built on either side of<BR>> the
state line, is the "right to use" of that aquifer.<BR>> <BR>> As
discussed by guests Rocky Barker, environmental reporter (Idaho<BR>>
Statesman), State Senator Charles Coiner (R-Twin Falls), and Prof.
Barbara<BR>> Cosens, University of Idaho Law School, when "Mary in
Moscow" called in on<BR>> Thursday's Idaho Public Television's "Dialogue"
program, this decision may<BR>> not be made locally, but by the US
Supreme Court.<BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Dialogue_011107_01.mp3"><FONT
face=Arial>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Dialogue_011107_01.mp3</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial>> <BR>> Thoughts?<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>>
Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
Optimist expects it to change<BR>> and the REALIST adjusts his sails."
<BR>> <BR>> - Unknown <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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