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<div>One option for cars and light trucks is hybrid gas or diesel/electric plug-ins. This type of vehicle would differ from the usual hybrids we now see on the streets given it would have bigger and/or better battery technology. They are designed to charge their batteries from a source external to the car (while still being able to charge off the cars operation like a regular hybrid) hopefully off "clean" alternative energy, like solar or wind, reducing the use of fossil fuels, while still having a biofuel or fossil fuel option. One environmental expert I read said he thought this would be a good transition solution for cars and trucks.
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<div>Improvements in energy storage, either battery or:</div>
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<div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage</a></div>
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<div>are a much needed development, especially when relying on solar or wind, that are not always able to supply power, one of the main criticisms of solar and wind that some insist means we still must rely on large scale energy power plants that can always be relied on, like nuclear or coal fired plants that can run 24 hours a day.
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<div>Ted Moffett<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">lfalen</b> <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Ted<br><br>You are right in that biofuels cannot totally replace fossil fuels. They can however help, along with improving fuel efficiency. I don't know if battery powered cars will ever be a success, hopefully they will ( not holding my breath). Given the ingenuity of inventive people, I think that eventually there will be a variety of other alternatives.
<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Ted Moffett" <a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:22:23 -0800<br>To: lfalen <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">
lfalen@turbonet.com</a>, vision2020 <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Can Algae Fill Our Gas Tanks & Can Coal Energy KeepCO2 Stored?<br><br>> Roger et. al.
<br>><br>> If I have my facts straight, I think the Spangle biofuel plant that just<br>> went under before even getting going was the one that was once going to go<br>> near the Port of<br>> Wilma... But don't quote me on this! The article in the Spokesman Review
<br>> said the main investor behind the Spangle biofuel plant had given up on a<br>> biofuel plant in our area.<br>><br>> There is a big biofuel plant that is supposed to be built in Southern Idaho<br>> by Iogen of Canada, using straw in a cellulosic biofuel process. We shall
<br>> see if this happens.<br>><br>> Biofuels have promise, but I think there is a lot of naive optimism in the<br>> hopes they can practically and economically, without serious impacts of<br>> agriculture or the environment, sustainably replace a majority of the fossil
<br>> fuels that power our cars and trucks nation wide.<br>><br>> When I see this happen I will believe it.<br>><br>> Ted<br>><br>> On 1/3/07, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com
</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Ted<br>> ><br>> > Is this the plant that was originally to be built at the Port of Wilma. I<br>> > hope it will be built some were. There is a smal plant in the works at
<br>> > Genesee. He plans to make bildesial from usned vegetable oil. Brocke and<br>> > Sons are also working on a product made from rape. There should be more of<br>> > these as time goes on.<br>> > Roger
<br>> > -----Original message-----<br>> > From: "Ted Moffett" <a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a><br>> > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:08:27 -0800<br>> > To: Vision2020
<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Can Algae Fill Our Gas Tanks & Can Coal Energy<br>> > KeepCO2 Stored?<br>> ><br>> > > All-<br>> > >
<br>> > > I was disappointed to learn that the biofuel plant planned for Spangle,<br>> > > Washington has gone under:<br>> > ><br>> > > <a href="http://spokesmanreview.com/business/story.asp?ID=166758">
http://spokesmanreview.com/business/story.asp?ID=166758</a><br>> > ><br>> > > However, in a recent discussion of solutions to global warming and<br>> > fossil<br>> > > fuel depletion, someone mentioned biofuel from algae. I first
<br>> > thought...<br>> > > Yeah, sure! But apparently this is not a joke:<br>> > ><br>> > > Read about it here:<br>> > ><br>> > > <a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/2364.html">
http://www.energybulletin.net/2364.html</a><br>> > ><br>> > > And while I'm at it, there are promising developments with CO2<br>> > sequestration<br>> > > from coal energy plants:<br>> > >
<br>> > ><br>> > <a href="http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-06/features/clean-coal-technology/?page=3">http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-06/features/clean-coal-technology/?page=3</a><br>> > ><br>
> > > Though global warming and fossil fuel depletion are massive daunting<br>> > > problems that threaten the next generation, there are solutions, and the<br>> ><br>> > > quicker they are adopted, the better.
<br>> > ><br>> > > Ted Moffett<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> ><br>><br>><br></blockquote></div><br>