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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps Farris is on the Anselm Clubhouse List
of Preferred Electricians. It’s not like laws or licensing actually
means anything at the sandbox.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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"Sins can be committed in ignorance, and the fact that they were committed
in ignorance doesn't cause the sin to just disappear . . . "<br>
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vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Art Deco<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 06, 2006
8:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Vision 2020<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] The
Insults Continue</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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13.5pt'>Farris,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><a href="http://www.ipels.idaho.gov/curroster.htm"><font size=4><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'>http://www.ipels.idaho.gov/curroster.htm</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'> provides a search for all licensed
professional engineers in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<h1><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><b><font size=6 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Idaho</span></font></b></st1:place></st1:State><font
face="Courier New"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> Statutes<o:p></o:p></span></font></h1>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> TITLE 54<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> PROFESSIONS, VOCATIONS, AND BUSINESSES<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> CHAPTER 12<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> 54-1201. DECLARATION OF POLICY. To safeguard life, health and property,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>every person practicing or offering to practice professional engineering or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>professional land surveying, as herein defined, for any project physically<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>located in this state, shall submit evidence of his qualifications and be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>registered as hereinafter provided; and it shall be unlawful for any person to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>practice or offer to practice professional engineering or professional land<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>surveying for any project physically located in this state, or to use in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>connection with his name or otherwise assume, use or advertise any title or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>description tending to convey the impression that he is a registered or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>licensed professional engineer or professional land surveyor, unless such<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>person has been duly registered or is exempted under the provisions of this<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>chapter. Except as exempted by section 54-1223, Idaho Code, an engineer shall<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>be allowed to practice professional engineering as defined in this chapter<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>only when he has become duly registered or licensed as a professional engineer<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>by the board under this chapter. The practice of professional engineering or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>professional land surveying shall be deemed a privilege granted by the <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>board of registration of professional engineers and professional land<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>surveyors through the board, based on qualifications of the individuals as<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>evidenced by the person's certificate of registration, which shall not be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>transferable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>
<div><pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> TITLE 54<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> PROFESSIONS, VOCATIONS, AND BUSINESSES<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> CHAPTER 12<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> 54-1222. VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES -- PROSECUTION OF OFFENSES. Any person<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>who shall practice, or offer to practice, professional engineering or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>professional land surveying in this state without being registered in<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>accordance with the provisions of this chapter, or any person presenting or<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>attempting to use as his own the certificate of registration or the seal of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>another, or any person who shall give any false or forged evidence of any kind<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to the board or to any member thereof in obtaining a certificate of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>registration, or any person who shall falsely impersonate any other registrant<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of like or different name, or any person who shall attempt to use an expired<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>or revoked certificate of registration or practice at any time during a period<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the board has suspended or revoked his certificate of registration, or any<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>person who shall violate any of the provisions of this chapter, shall be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>guilty of a misdemeanor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Legal counsel selected by the board, or the attorney general of this state<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>or anyone designated by him may act as legal advisor of the board. It shall be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the duty of the attorney general of this state to enforce the provisions of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>this chapter and to prosecute any person violating the same. The attorney<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>general shall be reimbursed by the board for any fees and expenses incurred by<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the attorney general in representing the board.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
13.5pt'>Please help understand the disconnect here. I am sure there must
be a mistake somewhere because surely someone who claims to be a
"saint" would not intentionally violate laws who legislative intent
is "to safeguard life, health and property."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>From: <<a href="mailto:heirdoug@netscape.net">heirdoug@netscape.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>To: <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">idahotom@hotmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:58 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Subject: [Vision2020] The Insults Continue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>> [Vision2020] The Insults Continue<br>
> Tom Hansen idahotom at hotmail.com<br>
> Mon Nov 6 15:01:27 PST 2006 (one min after work)<br>
> <br>
> "This brings up a fascinating question: What would be the
correct <br>
> title for<br>
> an unemployed ex-electrician that used to be licensed?"<br>
> <br>
> Thoughts?<br>
> <br>
> Tom Hansen<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Vandalville</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tom-Tom,<br>
> <br>
> The correct title would be an </span></font><strong><b><font size=6
color=red face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:red'>Electrical
Engineer</span></font></b></strong> Designer, charging <br>
> more for one hour than you make in a 12 hour day.<br>
> All with out the restriction of posting times or locations. And that <br>
> doesn't include payment for my expeses!<br>
> <br>
> That's what I would call him!<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for the opportunity to serve Crow!<br>
> <br>
> Doug!<br>
> <br>
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