Tom,<br> <br> My advice is to not do it at UI because it is a huge waste of time and money. Especially in the Education Department because it is a messed up program that takes you a long time because their courses are not put in order so you can complete them in a timely fashion and the advice they give you is poor and inaccurate. It shouldn't take three years to get a M.Ed. after you have your BS. <br> <br> But, I think you are mistaken Mr. Hansen as to time. I have only be going to college for 7 years. Five years for my undergrad and two in graduate school (UI statistical average is actually higher). I didn't start going until I was 25 years old. Between 19 and 24 I worked as a manager at a small business in Cd'A. Three of those 7years were part time because I had to work in order to afford college. In respect to the last two years of my education, I should be further along in my M.Ed. program but am not because the person that designed the program
must have been on crack at the time. <br> <br> I also work full time Mr. Hansen, just like you do, but for more money. <br> <br> If you think loans are an aid, I guess you could say I am all for that type of aid. I think if the government gave out more loans and less freebies society would be better off. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br><br><b><i>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Enlighten us, Arnold -<br><br>What is your opinion of professional students, those members of society<br>whose only apparent purpose in life is to go from class to class, semester<br>after semester, year after year, while receiving government aid in the form<br>of student loans?<br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Vandalville<br>UI '96<br><br>"I think one of the best ways to support education is to make successful<br>private
schools like Logos prosper through tax exemption."<br><br>- Donovan Arnold (July 11, 2005)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<br>On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold<br>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:29 PM<br>To: Joe Campbell<br>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam] Should Former Deans Retain Their<br>HighSalaries?<br><br>Joe,<br><br>Not every dollar given to a government run school provides a positive return<br>to the taxpayer. And not every college degree produced is worth the expense<br>of producing it. Paying a lousy university president that is no longer<br>president doesn't increase the value of the degree either, as your argument<br>seems to be predicated upon. <br><br>The risk of not paying your taxes is not equal to the risk not investing in<br>a particular company, to make such a comparison as you did, is illogical. <br><br>I am for limiting government spending to
what is productive and beneficial<br>to society. There are limits to what people can afford to pay. Torturing the<br>working class by making them pay for luxurious salaries for former<br>government employees is highly unethical in my opinion. After a certain<br>point, people get a diminished return on their investment in government, UI<br>has demonstrated this. <br><br>Best,<br><br>_DJA <br><br><br></blockquote><br><p> 
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