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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ted, you rapscallion! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Indeed last night's MCA reservoir forum was an
opportunity to "speculate" on what might be done to address local concerns
about water supply, including as a primary focus, trying to address reservoir
issues like where would it be; how many, one or a series; what would it
cost; how would we pay for one; is it a good idea or not; etc., etc. The
short answer for Nils is that everyone seemed to agree on the need for a
feasibility study, and that a site up on the forested, granite slabs near
Moscow Mountain seemed promising for a variety of reasons -- cleanliness, less
silt, less leakage, less expensive land, and perhaps more recreational
opportunity.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Now, for those not privy to my private message to Ted, in
which I declined to "speculate" on whether the real reason for recent
federal legislation that grossly limits the availability of habeas corpus was to
eviscerate habeas corpus (as opposed merely to limiting torture in the name of
fighting the war on terror, [as I try to recall the question he posed]), let me
say this, so that I may try to shed his label about me being "above" such
speculatory "hoi polloi plebian activity."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Habeas corpus has been grossly limited in numerous ways
and is continually under attack, not only for non-citizens labeled
non-combatants, but for citizens who reside in this country. I disagree
with the various attempts to limit the writ of habeas corpus, whether it be done
to non-combatants or citizens on death row. Limiting habeas corpus
directly correlates to increasing the likelihood that the innocent languish in
prison. Period. It was important enough to explicitly protect in the
Constitution (Suspension clause -- Art. I, Sec. 9, Cl. 2), when the Framers
of the Constitution recalled George III and his tyranny and abuse of the
citizenry through extended incarceration without charges. The writ of
habeas corpus is just as important now.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I found myself roundly applauding Garrison Keillor's
condemnation of the Senate for caving in on the afore-mentioned
legislation, gutting habeas corpus, and handing President Bush more tools with
which he will cede the moral high ground and bring us down, closer to the level
of our enemies. <A
href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0610040035oct04,1,2100411.column">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0610040035oct04,1,2100411.column</A></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And Ted, I still don't care to speculate on trying to
discern the reasons of discrete politicians for agreeing to certain
language. I can't read their minds. What matters is the plain
language that gets enacted. But I do agree with the importance of the
topic and appreciate your heartfelt postings on an important subject of
debate. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bruce Livingston</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=starbliss@gmail.com href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:09 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Is Moscow Ready for
Reservoir?</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Bruce et. al.</DIV>
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<DIV>The intentions of this MCA meeting sound like speculation about whether a
reservoir is a reasonable solution to the Palouse's future water
needs...</DIV>
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<DIV>I thought you did not engage in "speculation" on Vision2020?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps this post is just advertising a meeting where "speculation" will
occur, so you are not engaging in those lowly thought provoking perhaps
incorrect ideas that come under the heading of "speculation," on
Vision2020. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are above that sort of hoi polloi plebian activity, after
all...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Still respecting your commitment to human rights...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ted Moffett<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/8/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Bruce and
Jean Livingston</B> <<A
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston@turbonet.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Reminder: MCA meeting on whether Moscow should
consider building a water reservoir.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>MCA General Public Meeting on Monday Oct. 9 at 1912
Building @ 7p.m.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Water Solutions – Is
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Ready for a Reservoir?</SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=3>Panelists: </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Jerry
Fairley, Professor of Hydrogeology, U of Idaho</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Dianne
French, founder of Palouse Water Conservation Network</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Gary
Riedner, Moscow City Supervisor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Steve
Robischon, Exec. Mgr. of Palouse Basin Aquifer Committee</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Mark
Solomon, Palouse Water Conservation Network</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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