Jackie,<br> <br>A person can be found guilty in civil court. You can get all excited about the terminology used for it if you want. But, if you go a head and keep destroying people's property, making false complaints against them to the city, and demand people "PROVE IT", see where you end up. I believe only guilty people say that. <br> <br> Right after you had an argument with Phil Roderick his property was destroyed, and you were asking all sorts of questions about this security systems.<br> <br> <div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/015987.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/015987.html</a></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016001.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016001.html</a></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><a
href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016005.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016005.html</a><br> </div> <div class="MsoNormal">That vandalism is on police record. <br> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><br> You got into an argument with Austin Storm, and surprise, a false complaint about his business was filed with the the city.<br> <br> <div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029460.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029460.html</a></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029453.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029453.html</a></div> <br> That false report was filed and is on record. <br> <br> </div> <div class="MsoNormal">Third, you have been endlessly been attacking Doug Wilson and his property was attacked four times.<br> <div
class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://right-mind.us/blogs/intolerista_island/archive/2006/04/03/42703.aspx">http://right-mind.us/blogs/intolerista_island/archive/2006/04/03/42703.aspx</a> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><br> </div> <div class="MsoNormal">That is also on police record.<br> <br> <br> <br> </div><br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br><br><b><i>J Ford <privatejf32@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I knew you'd back off your statement the minute I challenged you!<br><br>We'll see just how accurate you are, you putz!<br><br>You name ONE SINGLE piece of property that you can prove that I have <br>"destroyed"...just one.<br><br>You and I and everyone else KNOWS you are lieing - not to mention you never <br>spoke to any "county official" and there isn't one alive that would back YOU <br>up.<br><br>You WILL learn you take the word of
liars and present them as fact - you! <br>loose, IF that is even what has happened. My guess - you simply are taking <br>what others have said on this list and on other's blogs and decided that <br>makes it YOUR truth and that they are telling YOU these things. Hear little <br>voices in your head often, do you?<br><br>You don't know a damn thing about me except what you have been told by a <br>bunch of known liars and deceivers. NOW, you get to see where that gets <br>you.<br><br>Oh, and BTW - you don't get "convicted" in civil court, you troll! Either <br>they find for the plaintiff or they find for the respondent; being <br>"convicted" means you spend time in jail or on probation and have a record. <br>Surely, a college man such as yourself should know the difference. Mayhap <br>Sunil can explain it to you.<br><br><br><br>J :]<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>>To: J Ford <privatejf32 @hotmail.com="">,
vision2020@moscow.com<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked <br>>tocrackdownonbloggers, websites<br>>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>J,<br>><br>> If it were my property you destroyed, you bet I would call them J. I <br>>think there is more than enough circumstantial evidence against you J for <br>>a conviction in a civil court, as is what a county officer told me in a <br>>private conversation. In a criminal court, it would a bit harder. But when <br>>eight people (that I know of) you have known to have strong public <br>>disagreements with end up with false complaints filed against them and <br>>damaged property, it doesn't bode well for you. Especially when you don't <br>>work and have lots of time, have been caught on people's private property <br>>taking pictures, and have no less than 200 emails slandering them <br>>personally on a public
forum.<br>><br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>> _DJA<br>><br>><br>><br>>J Ford <privatejf32 @hotmail.com=""> wrote: Go for it you lousy little weasel! <br>> The MPD phone number is on the tip of<br>>your tongue - use it! Just be sure you got the cahoonas to withstand the<br>>consequences.<br>><br>>J :]<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> >From: Donovan Arnold<br>> >To: J Ford<br>>, vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked<br>> >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites<br>> >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >"Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!"<br>> >J<br>> ><br>> >Wow J! That was a great line. That is funny. Did you just<br>> >come up with that all by yourself? That's so fresh and timely.<br>> >Got any jokes about the Czar of Russia and the Bolshevik
Revolution <br>>before<br>> >that expires?<br>> ><br>> >Evidence? Yeap, got evidence. Plenty. Be careful what you wish for.<br>> ><br>> >Best,<br>> ><br>> >_DJA<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >J Ford<br>> wrote: Well, by golly - ya got me, DJA!<br>> >I must confess, I confess. You are<br>> >right...I DO own a camera. Well, to be truthful, I own several - some of<br>> >them are even antiques.<br>> ><br>> >BUT NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN USED TO STALK PEOPLE OR THEIR <br>>CHILDREN.<br>> ><br>> >You or anyone else that has ANY proof to contrary, might I suggest you<br>> >prove<br>> >it or shut the h**l up! I have never, THAT'S NEVER, damaged anyone's<br>> >property nor have I EVER made any "anonymous phone call(s) to government<br>> >authorities making false claims". Again, you got proof, I mean hard <br>>core,<br>> >in
paper, in video, etc. type of proof and I am sure people would be<br>> >interested. Since you do not 'cause I have NEVER DONE ANY OF THOSE <br>>THINGS,<br>> >shut up!<br>> ><br>> >Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!<br>> ><br>> >J :]<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > >From: Donovan Arnold<br>> > >To: J Ford<br>> >, vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to<br>> > >crackdownonbloggers, websites<br>> > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:21:32 -0700 (PDT)<br>> > ><br>> > >J,<br>> > ><br>> > > I don't recall having any time to stalk people as I think you seem <br>>to<br>> > >have J, as I have worked two jobs and go to school full time. I would<br>> >also<br>> > >think that it would be smart to at least own a camera
too if I was <br>>into<br>> > >stalking. Got one I can borrow J? But nonetheless, if you think so, go<br>> >for<br>> > >it J.<br>> > ><br>> > > Say J, how come so many people that you publicly voice indifference <br>>to<br>> > >shortly there after end up with damaged property or an anonymous phone<br>> > >call to government authorities making false claims against them? Is <br>>that<br>> > >just a coincidence?<br>> > ><br>> > > Best,<br>> > ><br>> > > _DJA<br>> > ><br>> > >J Ford<br>> > wrote: And the people YOU have harassed<br>> > >and stalked just this past year...should we<br>> > >get in on that "sue-em-dano" train, too?<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > >J :]<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > >
>From: Donovan Arnold<br>> > > >To: J Ford<br>> > >, vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack<br>> > > >downonbloggers, websites<br>> > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT)<br>> > > ><br>> > > >I for one think Doug Wilson should sue the crap out of all the people<br>> > >that<br>> > > >have been harassing him over the last five years. I think it will<br>> >bring<br>> > > >some closure to people that harass not only him, but the entire<br>> > >population<br>> > > >of the Palouse about him and anyone that knows him.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > I am not a follower of Doug Wilson. But I wish him the best in<br>> > > >defending himself against some of these people that just go way<br>> > >overboard<br>> > > >and
violate his rights in their efforts to try and prove something <br>>we<br>> > >just<br>> > > >don't care about.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Best,<br>> > > ><br>> > > > _DJA<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > >J Ford<br>> > > wrote: We best be watching the County<br>> > > >logs for this one to come up soon, then. I<br>> > > >am sure since the MPD did not respond favorably to Dougie-BOY's <br>>attempt<br>> > >to<br>> > > >harass people, he will try this tact. And since Greggy is no longer<br>> >his<br>> > > >pet<br>> > > >attorney, available at his every beck and call, I am just as sure<br>> > > >Dougie-BOY<br>> > > >will be hiring some out-of-town-big-wig lawyer to handle the case.<br>> > >Which,<br>> > > >come to
think of it, would make sense even if Greggy weren't into <br>>"real<br>> > > >estate" these days...considering he can't handle the "bigger" cases<br>> > >anyway<br>> > > >and Dougie- BOY proves his lack of confidence in Greggy when it comes<br>> >to<br>> > > >such cases. Just look at the Sitler and Jamin cases - wasn't Greggy<br>> >who<br>> > > >was<br>> > > >called on to take those for the church, now was it?<br>> > > ><br>> > > >Sorry, Greggy....no vote of confidence for you from the big guy.<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > >J :]<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > >From: "Michael"<br>> > > > >To:<br>> > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack
down<br>> > > > >onbloggers, websites<br>> > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:51:23 -0700<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > >For those of you not aware, the front page of USA Today mentions <br>>the<br>> > >law<br>> > > > >suit against my friend Frank Vance; I figured some of you might be<br>> > > > >interested since Doug Wilson helped make all this happen (Vance was<br>> > >first<br>> > > > >pursuing in part Wilson's dishonest cover up of Ligonier <br>>Ministrie's<br>> >RC<br>> > > > >Sproul Jr, Wilson's buddy who was defrocked in part for deceit and<br>> > > >pastoral<br>> > > > >abuse.).<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > >Here's the link:<br>> > > > <br>>
>http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20061003/1a_cover03.art.htm<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > >"Ligonier Ministries, a religious broadcaster and publisher in Lake<br>> > >Mary,<br>> > > > >Fla., has taken the unusual step of asking a judge to pre-emptively<br>> > > >silence<br>> > > > >a blogger to try to prevent him from criticizing the ministries.<br>> >Judges<br>> > > > >historically have refused to place such limits on traditional<br>> > >publishers.<br>> > > > >The lawsuit cites postings on a blog by Frank Vance that described<br>> > > >Ligonier<br>> > > > >president Timothy Dick as "a shark" and as coming from a "family of<br>> > > > >nincompoops." The suit says the entries are false and have damaged<br>> > >Dick's<br>> > >
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