Mo,<br> <br> Well, I guess if you want to get nasty and personal about it, I could make a few quick observation about you too.<br> <br> Target and Wal-Mart are the same. Like Coke and Pepsi. Same thing, maybe dressed up and little different, but they both soda and cost mostly the same, and have the same impact. <br> <br> Anyone that buys something at Wal-Mart or Target expecting it to last doesn't know how to spend money. Wal_mart and all those big cheap departments stores are designed to sell cheap consumable products at the lowest price possible to the lower and middle classes of the area, that is their function. To say something "lasts" is just laughable. To say they sell different crap is laughable, it is all crap. Sometimes people want to buy crap, they don't need a state of art 50 year lasting product. Other times, that is all the money they have. <br> <br> But you are right about the new location of Wal-Mart, I talked to the manager today, it is
going up on Bishop Blvd. <br> <br> Yes, I am willing to drive six miles to Wal_mart to save $50<br> a month, but not willing to sit in construction for 15 minutes to shop downtown when Eastside Mall is right near my house and easily accessible. Thousands of college students and other people come from Whitman county to shop here in Moscow. It is likely to assume that thousands of college students and others in Latah will go over there now. It is also more likely that less people from Whitman will come over here to shop, losing business for everyone else, mostly restaurants specialty shops that carry items that Wal-Mart doesn't. <br> <br> And the price difference will be about 11%, not 6%. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br> <br> <br> <br><br><b><i>Melissa Hendrickson <hend5953@uidaho.edu></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> A quick observation, DJA, were
you not the one complaining about the <br>construction downtown and how it doubled your gas consumption so you <br>would be doing all of your shopping on the east side of town until it <br>is done? Now you are going to drive to the other side of Pullman to <br>save 6 cents on the dollar for groceries? That is if the Walmart is <br>near Safeway. <br><br>Also, I know it is easy to do and many people like to lump all retail <br>box stores into one category, but the quality and service differs <br>greatly between say Target and Walmart. I worked for both companies <br>and would work for Target again in a heart beat. I am still using <br>things I bought at Target, over six years ago, on a regular basis <br>because they still work. I cannot say the same thing about the things <br>I bought at Walmart. They sell items cheap for a reason. They are <br>not the same product even if the box looks the same. While working <br>for Target we had a customer return a kitchen
appliance, I think it <br>was a hand mixer. We had the same brand, same box, but the UPC on the <br>box did not come up in our system. We asked them if they had purchased <br>it at a Target, they said no, they bought it at Walmart. I won't go <br>into the differences in service, training employees, or dealing with <br>internal complaints, I could write for hours on those differences. <br><br>Soo you can think they are all the same, but they are not. I am <br>willing to let Walmart have a place in the area, I won't try and ban <br>them, but they are not the bastion of greatness that some seem to <br>think they are. <br><br>Oh and your desired choices you would like to see, we already have two <br>of them in the area, the Bon is Macy's and Sears at the East Side <br>Market place. Let's strive for more than Walmart.<br><br>--Mo<br><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 @yahoo.com=""><br>Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 7:22
pm<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?<br>To: Melissa Hendrickson <hend5953 @uidaho.edu=""><br>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br><br>> Mo,<br>> <br>> You could very well be right about the location. But I heard <br>> they were thinking of the HWY location. <br>> <br>> I don't think that Fred Meyer, ShopKo, Kmart, Target, etc are <br>> any different then Wal-Mart, they all sell the same crap. The <br>> only difference being that Wal_mart has overall lower prices on <br>> most items. When I think variety I think like Wal Mart, Bon, <br>> Banana Republic, Sears etc. <br>> <br>> I also think that it is very possible for Moscow and Pullman to <br>> both have a Super Wal_mart. The Palouse population is about <br>> 75,000. If half the population visited Wal_mart once a week and <br>> spent $100 on groceries and other items that would be $500,000 a <br>> week in sales. Between two stores, that
is still over $1 Million <br>> a month in sales per store. That is well beyond what most stores <br>> in the area can do. <br>> <br>> I for one, regardless of location, will be buying groceries in <br>> Whitman county because of the price difference and to protest <br>> grocery tax hikes.<br>> <br>> Best,<br>> <br>> _DJA<br>> <br>> Melissa Hendrickson <hend5953 @uidaho.edu=""> wrote: I heard <br>> recently that they were going to start breaking ground soon <br>> across<br>> from Safeway, but maybe my source was wrong. It makes sense for <br>> Walmartto want a central location too bad they need to put in a <br>> whole new<br>> building, rather than planning ahead when they built the current <br>> store <br>> for<br>> potential growth in the future. <br>> <br>> This area is not big enough to support<br>> two super walmarts, so I for one am glad there will only be one store<br>> between
the two towns. Two super walmarts seems like a little <br>> over kill<br>> to me, lets shoot for a little more choice, maybe Target, Fred <br>> Meyer, <br>> Etc.<br>> Choice is a good thing.<br>> <br>> --Mo<br>> <br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Donovan Arnold <br>> Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 2:00 pm<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?<br>> To: Melissa Hendrickson <br>> Cc: Dan Carscallen , vision2020@moscow.com<br>> <br>> > Mo,<br>> > <br>> > My understanding is that property has already been sold, across <br>> > from Safeway to somebody else. A manager working at Wal-Mart <br>> told <br>> > me it is going in next to the new shopping center on the state <br>> > line because they were not able to get a second store on the <br>> Troy <br>> > Highway like planned. The original plan was to have a store on <br>> the
<br>> > west side of Pullman and a store on the east side Moscow. When <br>> > that failed, they wanted one in a more central location to get <br>> as <br>> > much of both markets as possible. That makes more sense to me, <br>> > then to expect everyone to drive out to the west side Pullman <br>> of <br>> > give up the business of all of Latah and lots of Moscow. <br>> > <br>> > Best,<br>> > <br>> > _DJA<br>> > <br>> > Melissa Hendrickson wrote: The Pullman <br>> > Super Walmart is going in across from Safeway, not just <br>> > across the border on the Moscow/Pullman Highway. So it will not <br>> > be as <br>> > convenient as you might think to simply stop shopping at Winco <br>> and <br>> > start shopping at the Super Walmart.<br>> > <br>> > --Mo<br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: Donovan Arnold <br>>
> Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 12:23 pm<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?<br>> > To: Dan Carscallen , vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > <br>> > > Ted,<br>> > > <br>> > > That is where they are going to build the new SuperWalmart. <br>> > > <br>> > > Whitman is just thrilled that Moscow Elites gave them all <br>> their <br>> > > future property tax revenues and sales income. <br>> > > <br>> > > I am going to go to the Super Walmart, just like everybody <br>> else <br>> > > making less than 50K a year. But I think it is upsetting that <br>> > all <br>> > > the taxes are going to Whitman County instead of to Latah <br>> which <br>> > > is why I wanted a store here, it was going to happen anyway. <br>> > The <br>> > > 6% sales tax on food at Winco will be enough to send all the <br>>
> > college students the 200 feet west to Super Walmart instead <br>> of <br>> > > Winco. <br>> > > <br>> > > Do the math. If Walmart is 5% cheaper than Winco, plus 6% not <br>> > > taxed, that is an 11% difference in price. If a college <br>> student <br>> > > spends about $250 a month on groceries, at a wage of $5.15, <br>> > that <br>> > > is 5.3 hours of work saved by going to Wal Mart instead of <br>> > Winco. <br>> > > If a college student works only about 50 hours a month, that <br>> is <br>> > > 10% of their wages saved. What college student isn't going <br>> make <br>> > > the little effort to save that much of their meager earnings?<br>> > > <br>> > > Best,<br>> > > <br>> > > _DJA<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>>
> > <br>> > > Dan Carscallen wrote: Ted asks:<br>> > > "Does anyone know if the mall on the Washington St. side of the<br>> > > Moscow/Pullman Hwy. is still going forward?"<br>> > > <br>> > > Yes it is. Here's the site you refer to:<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> <br>http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/fliers/WA_Pullman_Hwy270_AirportRd_F.pd<br>f<br>> > > <br>> > > DC<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > >
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