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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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href="http://www.latahelection2006.com/Prop_2.htm">http://www.latahelection2006.com/Prop_2.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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The right choice for the future of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Latah</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.<br>
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Linda Pike for <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Commissioner</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
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For details, go to <a href="http://www.LindaPike.com">http://www.LindaPike.com</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Solomon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, September 30, 2006
10:38 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> g. crabtree;
vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Risch
Says No on Prop 2</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Gary,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As usual, the devil is in the details. The full text of the legislation
can be found at the Sec'y of State website:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande";color:black'>http://www.idsos.idaho.gov/elect/inits/06init08.htm</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The catch is the phrase "or enforcement" which, whether
intended or not, allows for application of any existing zoning code to be
considered under Prop 2.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Given the duplicitous nature of the entire Proposition trying to slide
this radical redefinition of takings by disguised as abuse of traditional
eminent domain powers, I doubt it is unintentional. Go to Laird Maxwell's
website and watch the pro-Prop 2 flash cartoon and see how many times they
mention the sentence you've quoted or the concepts there embodied. I'll give
you a clue: none, nada, zilch.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Then there is the simple truth that land use patterns evolve over time
as community's change. Locking in today's codes as the perfect blueprint for
future generations doesn't make sense to me. These are local decisions made by
locally elected officials who can be unelected if they do not reflect the will
of the public as I well know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At 9:20 AM -0700 9/30/06, g. crabtree wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mark, what am I missing here?<br>
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"If an owner's ability to use, possess, sell,<br>
or divide private real property is limited or prohibited by the<br>
enactment or enforcement of any land-use law after the date of<br>
acquisition by the owner of the property in a manner that reduces the<br>
fair-market value of the property, the owner shall be entitled to<br>
just compensation."<br>
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If a person acquires property, knowing full well that zoning or other
regulations preclude a particular use, he would not be entitled to any form of
compensation. Conversely, should a property owner be prevented from utilizing
his land in a perfectly legal manner, according to the laws in place at the time
he purchased the property, it seems perfectly reasonable that he should be
reimbursed for his loss. Are you arguing that government should be able to ride
roughshod over property owners at the whim of elected officials? This sounds to
me like democracy at its absolute worst.<br>
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gc<br>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Solomon"
<msolomon@moscow.com><br>
To: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:29 AM<br>
Subject: [Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Risch comes out against property-rights initiative<br>
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By DEAN A. FERGUSON<br>
of the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lewiston</st1:place></st1:City>
Tribune<br>
9/30/06<br>
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<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>'s
governor said a property-rights initiative will have a<br>
"chilling effect" on government and is not needed to protect property<br>
owners from eminent domain abuses.<br>
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"I suspect probably there are people who want to see this chilling<br>
effect," Risch told the Lewiston Tribune Friday.<br>
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Proposition 2 has two components.<br>
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First, the initiative forbids use of eminent domain to take private<br>
property and turn it over to private interests. Second, the<br>
initiative requires governments to pay owners when regulations limit<br>
a property's value.<br>
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The eminent domain portion is unneeded, Risch said.<br>
<br>
"The Legislature already did that," he said, noting House Bill 555<br>
passed this year.<br>
<br>
The bill responded to a controversial 2005 U.S. Supreme Court<br>
decision that allowed a <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Connecticut</st1:place></st1:State>
city to condemn homes and turn<br>
the land over to private interests.<br>
<br>
Proposition 2 merely copies portions of that law.<br>
<br>
But the second part has sparked outcries from county and city governments.<br>
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"This new language is going to lead to a lot of litigation," Risch<br>
said. "I have serious reservations about that."<br>
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The initiative reads: "If an owner's ability to use, possess, sell,<br>
or divide private real property is limited or prohibited by the<br>
enactment or enforcement of any land-use law after the date of<br>
acquisition by the owner of the property in a manner that reduces the<br>
fair-market value of the property, the owner shall be entitled to<br>
just compensation."<br>
<br>
Officials worry they will either have to abandon attempts to regulate<br>
growth or repeatedly pay big money to landowners who oppose planning<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>and zoning regulations.<br>
<br>
If zoning regulations forbid putting a junkyard next to your house,<br>
the city or county may have to pay the junkyard owner or repeal the<br>
ordinance, according to an analysis from the Idaho Association of<br>
Counties.<br>
<br>
So, either the junkyard goes in or the taxpayers pay to keep it out.<br>
<br>
Opponents of the initiative point to <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:State>
where Measure 37, a<br>
similar initiative, passed in 2004.<br>
<br>
Despite letting most landowners ignore land-use regulations, the<br>
state faces more than 3,000 claims totaling in the neighborhood of<br>
$4.5 billion.<br>
<br>
The <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State>
initiative earned a spot on the November ballot after<br>
conservative activist Laird Maxwell launched a $330,000 campaign to<br>
pay signature gatherers. <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State>
libertarian activist Howard Rich<br>
has been identified as the source of much of the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Idaho</st1:place></st1:State> money and<br>
initiatives in other states. Similar initiatives are on the ballots<br>
in <st1:City w:st="on">Washington</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Montana</st1:State>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Nevada</st1:State>, <st1:State w:st="on">Arizona</st1:State>
and <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>.<br>
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