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<div>Roger et. al.</div>
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<div>Thanks for the info...</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.newscientisttech.com/article.ns?id=mg19125696.300&feedId=earth_rss20">http://www.newscientisttech.com/article.ns?id=mg19125696.300&feedId=earth_rss20</a><br> </div>
<div>I just read a short article that refers to the subject you mention, at the link above. It sounds promising, but does not appear to be a practical means to removing millions of tons of CO2 from the atmosphere as a solution global warming, at least not in the short term. When this technology can take CO2 out of the atmosphere and make economically competitive fuels in significant amounts, then maybe...Or even if the fuel was not economically competitive, large scale CO2 sequestration might be tried using this method.
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<div>There are suggestions from some climate scientists that the same process that causes temperature reductions resulting from volcanic emissions placing particulates and aerosols into the atmosphere could be used to slow global warming, by deliberately injecting "stuff" into the atmosphere to induce cooling. A rather difficult and expensive project, with numerous unknowns, that would have to be repeated over and over to have long term effects, given that the cooling would only last a few years.
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<div>Anyway, wide spread implementation of a new much cheaper thin film solar cell might result in reducing CO2 emissions from coal fired electricity plants in the USA, which supply about 50% of US electricity.</div>
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<div><br><span class="articleHED">Thin Film Solar To Go Large</span><br><br><span class="articleDEK">Nanosolar and Conergy say they are working together to make large thin-film solar power plants that will be competitive with grid electricity.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><a href="http://www.nanosolar.com/">Nanosolar</a> said Friday that it has signed an agreement with <a href="http://www.conergy.com/">
Conergy</a> to develop large-scale solar power systems using thin-film technology.</span></p></span>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">That's a coup for Nanosolar, a <a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=12095&hed=The+Hottest+Private+Companies+in+North+America">Red Herring 100</a>
company, because Conergy is the world's largest solar-electric system integrator. Its IPO was the second-largest in tech last year (see <a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=15143&hed=Big+Deals%3a+IPOs">Big Deals: IPOs
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"Conergy [is] throwing its vast systems expertise and distribution expertise behind Nanosolar's ultra-low-cost cell technology," said CEO Martin Roscheisen.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Conergy didn't return calls by press time.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Under the agreement, Nanosolar and Conergy will develop a new solar-electric system design and a new panel design that will work together in a "highly coordinated and very unique way" to produce the cheapest solar power yet, he said.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Solar power is attracting plenty of attention as companies with new technology try to grab a piece of a market that CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets analyst Michael Rogol expects will grow from $12 billion in 2005 to $19 billion in 2006, $39 billion in 2008, and $72 billion in 2010 (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=16118&hed=Solar+Energy%e2%80%99s+Bright+Future">Solar Energy's Bright Future</a>).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 9.6pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Thin films are promising because they use little to no silicon—an advantage since the high-grade silicon needed for PV is scarce. Even without today's shortage, silicon has been the costliest part of a traditional cell. And light, flexible thin films could tap into lucrative new applications like consumer electronics and clothing (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=16017&hed=Solar%e2%80%99s+Going+Thin">Solar's Going Thin</a>).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 9.6pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">They have historically proven difficult and expensive to manufacture on a large scale, less efficient at converting sunlight into electricity, and short-lived. But startups with new technologies believe the problems can be overcome, and the potential is great.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Still, most other companies developing thin-film solar technology are focusing on smaller applications to take advantage of the thin nature of thin films.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Why take a thin technology big? Nanosolar says it's about savings, not size.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"Thin films are necessary because large-scale deployments with silicon cells are already not economic any more," Mr. Roscheisen said, adding that the collaboration will result in the first solar power systems that can produce electricity at the same price as peak power from the electrical grid.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Nanosolar has a thin-film technology that it claims is 10 times as cost-efficient as traditional cells, and a printing-based manufacturing technique that it says will bring the price down to less than a dollar per watt, competitive with natural gas and peak electricity prices (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=12562&hed=10+Cleantech+Companies+to+Watch%3a+Nanosolar">10 Cleantech Companies to Watch: Nanosolar</a>).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The company raised eyebrows in June when it raised $75 million from some big names in the industry, an amount the startup said would actually be worth $100 million when combined with government subsidies (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=17341&hed=Nanosolar+Gets+%24100M+for+PV">Nanosolar Gets $100M for PV</a>). Incidentally, the investors included Grazia Equity, an original backer of Conergy.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Nanosolar had previously raised $20 million in venture capital and $10.5 million in grants (see <a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=12313&hed=Nanosolar+Raises+Funding">
Nanosolar Raises Funding</a>).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Competition</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 8.85pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Nanosolar isn't the only company working on thin films, of course. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 8.85pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Many other thin-film startups, including Innovalight, Konarka, Miasolé, and HelioVolt, have also received funding in the last year (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=16704&hed=Nano%20Solar%20Firm%20Gets%20Funding">Nano Solar Firm Gets Funding</a>, <a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=15727&hed=Konarka+Raises+%2420M+in+Funds">
Konarka Raises $20M in Funds</a>, <a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=12464&hed=Energy+Innovations+Gets+Cash">Energy Innovations Gets Cash</a>). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 8.85pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In February, Royal Dutch <a href="http://studio.financialcontent.com/Engine?Account=redherring&PageName=QUOTE&Ticker=SC" target="_blank">
<span style="COLOR: #cc0000; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><a class="stockQuoteLink" href="http://studio.financialcontent.com/Engine?Account=redherring&PageName=QUOTE&Ticker=SC" target="_blank">Shell
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 8.85pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">And Ron Kenedi, head of North and South American operations for Sharp, the No. 1 solar manufacturer, told Red Herring he sees thin films becoming mainstream in two to three years (see
<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=15601&hed=Sharp%e2%80%99s+Key+to+Success+in+Solar">Sharp's Key to Success in Solar</a>).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">But Rhone Resch, president of the Solar Energy Industries Association, indicated that Nanosolar does have a chance at taking thin technology big.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">"What you have is a very innovative cell manufacturer who is partnering with a very innovative system integrator and module designer," he said. "My guess would be that they will come up with a very innovative and cost-effective product."
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