<font size="4">A resend as the original got lost somewhere.<br><br>[Well now folks, you can see for yourselves -- in
the words of a kin of the Doug Jones protesting his attribution as the
Princess -- something he has been accused of before but has not denied.]<br><br>To "Lucy Zoe:"
<br><br>First of all, but not very important at all, a denial of the
relation of the Princess and Doug Jones, the man behind Douglas
Wilson's secret theological/theocratic microphone, does not mean a
lot. The cultmaster and his toadies have lied so many times it would
not be rational to believe anything they say without strong independent
verification. <br><br>Most important and quite unclothing for you and your fellow
cult members, however, is the failure of your post [using Doug Jones'
sister's email address] to address the issues raised by the post
[below] which excited his attention: Hypocrisy, Lies, and Phonies.
Most importantly the dyspeptic response minimizes, if not totally
denigrates, the seriousness of child sexual abuse, the seriousness of
the problem of child sexual predators, the various admonitions of Jesus
Christ about bearing false witness, turning the other cheek, and loving
your neighbor as yourself.
<br><br><br>Fact: The post from the Princess contained the quote:</font><div><span><font size="4"><br><br><font size="2">"It should be added, as Doug Wilson has made clear repeatedly, the death
penalty is not automatically required for adultery, homosexual acts, and
other forms of "<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">porneia</span>." When guilt is established, <span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>, but the meting out of the death penalty is just one
option available to the judge."<br></font><br></font></span></div><div><font size="4">See: <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-August/033961.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-August/033961.html</a>, fourth paragraph of response.
<br></font><br><br><font size="4">Fact: His Phoniness, Douglas Wilson,
wrote a letter to the court recommending of sexual predator and NSA
student James Sitler's sentence:</font> <font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
<font size="2"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;">"</span>I would urge that the civil penalties applied would be measured
and limited."</font><br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">See <a href="http://www.tomandrodna/CR_2005_02027/CC_Ltr_081905.pdf" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.tomandrodna/CR_2005_02027/CC_Ltr_081905.pdf</a>, last paragraph.<br><br>You are concerned about the very low probability that Doug Jones and the Princess are not the same. <br><br>But you seem completely blase about the much larger moral and theological issues raised by preacher Wilson's asserting that
</span></span></font></font></span></font><font size="4"><font size="2">'...and
other forms of "<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">porneia</span>." When guilt is established, <span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>,'
but then recommending on the Ministry of Christ Church Letterhead to
the First District Court that for convicted sexual predator Sitler </font></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
<font size="2"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;">"</span>I would urge that the civil penalties applied would be measured
and limited."</font></span></font></font></span></font><br><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font size="2"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"></span>
</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
>From your response "Lucy Zoe" and its emphasis, you, like apparently
the master and his sycophantic minions of the cult you belong to, do
not consider the problem of sexual child abuse to be nearly as
important as a possible misattribution. This comes as no surprise.
Who cares if a few children get debauched in the boarding house milieu
if that milieu forwards the power and control of the cultmaster, and
along with it, the tag-along fortunes of Doug Jones, your ostensive
brother? It is people with attitudes like yours that make sexual child
abuse possible, enable the success of sexual predators, and make a
mockery of Christianity.
<br><br>Thank you "Lucy Zoe" for a very clarifying response showing
the focus of the cult on its self-perpetuation and self importance, and
not on community welfare or the following of the teachings of Christ.<br>
<br>You also write:<br><br></span></span></font></font></span></font></div><div><span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">"If you knew what he was really doing, you'd be far more concerned about
that than worrying about him posting on Vision 2020."</font></span><br></span></div><div><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font size="2"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>I am <span style="font-weight: bold;">very </span>concerned about
the things that Doug Jones is "really doing" along with his master and
his master's other toadies. Every person in the community who cares
about child welfare, about freedom, and about truth and justice ought
to be. I have read in <span style="font-style: italic;">Credenda/Agenda</span> cult
mouthpiece Gregory Dickison's description of what the world would be
like "when we are in control." It is much more frightening than <span style="font-style: italic;">
1984</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;">Brave New World</span>, or <span style="font-style: italic;">The History of the Third Reich</span>.<br><br>Latimer Tyndale<br><br></span></span><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">
<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span><br></span></span></font></font></span></font><div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/12/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Lucyzoe</b> <
<a href="mailto:lucyzoe@email.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
lucyzoe@email.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Speaking of lies, Doug Jones has not been
subscribed to Vision 2020 under his name or any other name for the last three
months. If you knew what he was really doing, you'd be far more concerned about
that than worrying about him posting on Vision 2020. Give it a rest. Take your
meds. Find something else to obsess over.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Lucy Z Jones</font></span></div></div></div></blockquote></span></div><div><div><br>____________________________________</div><div><div>
<span>- Hide quoted text -</span></div><span><br><br><font size="4">In a Vision 2020 post dated Tuesday, August, 15, 2006, 10:16 AM, Princess Doug Jones of the Church of the Christless wrote:
</font><br><br>"It should be added, as Doug Wilson has made clear repeatedly, the death
penalty is not automatically required for adultery, homosexual acts, and
other forms of "<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">porneia</span>." When guilt is established, <span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>, but the meting out of the death penalty is just one
option available to the judge."<br><br><br><font size="4">Contrast the quoted claim above with the actual facts about Wilsons actions:<br><br>One
of Wilson's ersatz Christian students at New Saint Andrews, James
Sitler, was caught molesting at least one child of a family with whom
Wilson had placed Sitler as a boarder. <br><br>Subsequent investigation produced credible allegations that
Sitler had engaged in more than 120 instances of similar behavior with
an undisclosed number of victims in at least three states. Further
revelations include the fact that Sitler maintained on an Internet
website a gallery of photo's of young children including some of his
alleged victims.
<br><br>What did the self-important, self-proclaimed broker of God Wilson do in this case? Did he publicly demand that "<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>?"
No, no, and no. Not only did Wilson assist Stiler to find a
member-of-the-cult attorney so that Sitler, Wilson, and the cult could
be protected from the consequences of Sitler's and Wilson's actions,
but Wilson wrote a letter to the court recommending extreme leniency.
<br><br><img alt="">Here is the final paragraph of the "<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>" Wilson's letter to the court:</font><br>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">
<font size="2">"I</font> <font size="2">am
grateful Steven was caught, and am grateful he has been brought to account for
these actions so early in his life. I am grateful that he will be sentenced for
his behavior, and that there will be hard consequences for him in real time. At
the same time, <font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">I would urge that the civil penalties applied would be measured
and limited. </span></font>I have good hope that Steven has genuinely repented, and that he
will continue to deal with this to become a productive and contributing member
of society."</font></span></font></p><font size="4">As
a result of plea negotiation, Wilson's request for leniency, and an
admittance of guilt of only one of the many instances of his perverted,
childhood destroying behavior, </font><font size="4"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sitler was sentenced to one year</span>, which he is now serving in the Latah County jail with release privileges to attend so-called "therapy" sessions.
<br>
<br>A letter reputed to be in the case file, almost all of which is now
sealed and thus protecting Sitler and Wilson, describes in the words of
the parents of another victim from another state one of Sitler's
actions where Sitler attempted to force a very young child to kiss and
to suck his male member. <br><br>Folks, we are not dealing with a habitual shoplifter here
where a one year sentence might conceivably be appropriate. We are
dealing with serial, perverted, seriously dangerous, sexual predator!
Yet the </font><font size="4">
"<span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;">such crimes are to be
dealt with severely</span>"
Wilson help to engineer this one year sentence travesty of justice and
thus the continued availability of this threat to children. Not only
that, but the unrepentant, in-every-one's-face arrogant Wilson
continues to place other students, some of whom may turn out also to be
sexual predators, in the homes of clueless cult members* where other
children may be at risk to become victims.
<br><br>There is also the yet to be officially and openly answered
questions about what happened when the molestation in the case for
which Sitler was sentenced was first discovered -- especially about
exactly and completely the actions various members of the cult,
including Wilson, took.
<br><br>The phony, power-craving-and-driven Wilson styles his
Christless cult as a Scottish village kirk. What incredible
hypocrisy! What an incredible lie! (*And what a bunch of sheepish
dummies that believe it in the face of overwhelming evidence to the
contrary!) If a pervert like Sitler was discovered in a real Scottish
village performing his gross, despicable, predatory acts on even one
child, he would be hung, and not by the neck. If the pastor of the
village kirk would also be so perverted as to </font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font size="2"><font size="4"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102); font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">
"</span>urge that the civil penalties applied would be measured
and limited</span></font></font></span></font><font size="4">," that pastor would probably also be hung similarly before being "invited" to leave the village.<br><br></font><font size="4">The hypocritical, phony, I-am-smarter-and-more-godly-than-anyone
Wilson is horrid blight on all persons of Scottish descent. Much worse
and very unfortuante for those that believe him, he is also an
unconscionable, hypocritical blight on those who </font><font size="4">sincerely </font><font size="4">wish to follow Christ and hope for eternal salvation from such a following.<br><br>Latimer Tyndale</font></span></div>
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