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<DIV><FONT size=4>Thank you Shirley Pissdoff. A text/style software
analysis of your messages and Shirley's is quite revealing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Not drugs this time but, pissing on several businesses you
don't like and social groups you look down upon to make your cult members
look at least a bit innocuous and acceptable. Isn't this a bit like
asking: Which would you rather be bitten by: An asp or a rattle
snake? I think you really should continue to use this tactic -- it is
quite informative about your outlook on yourself and others.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>What are you trying to divert attention from this
time:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The <EM>West of Paris</EM> potentially fatal PR
fiasco?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The relationships of the Cultmaster to the various parties
involved in the Jamin Wight criminal sex scandal/crime?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>What happened immediately <STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>after Sitler was <FONT color=#ff0000>first</FONT></FONT></STRONG> <FONT
color=#0000ff size=5><STRONG>discovered</STRONG></FONT> to be an active sexual
predator in a home in which he was placed by the Cultmaster?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The various relationships of the Cultmaster with Shelly
Bennett and similar persons?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>The problems of Mike Hoffman and their entanglement with
the <STRONG><FONT size=6><FONT face="Olde English">Wilson & Family's
Christless Cult & <FONT color=#00bb88>Cash
Machine</FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG>?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>The sale/exchange of real estate without 1099s being filed or
correct capital gains taxes being paid?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Roy Atwood's not so secret activities while at the UI and
possibly now at NSA?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Etc?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Please enlighten us, Shirley -- we don't buy your denial,
especially after the text analyses (nor do many of us doubt your true identity
-- cowardice is often found in egomaniacs and megalomaniacs).</FONT></DIV><FONT
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=penn_place_boise@yahoo.com
href="mailto:penn_place_boise@yahoo.com">Pennsylvania Place</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] trashy people?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>My goodness, take a molehill and build it into a mountain, why
don't you. Have you ever heard the expression "figure of speech"? <BR><BR>I have
nothing against poor people (I *am* poor, for that matter), or people who are
rural (I grew up on a farm!) or live in trailers. I was using a popular
expression to describe a certain type of person. I'm talking about meth-heads
and sex offenders here, not single moms and hard-luck hard-working people.
<BR><BR>But I won't take back what I've said. I'd rather be looked down on by
Kirkers than panhandled by psycho drunks. But I suppose now you'll rise in
defense of psycho drunks who panhandle.<BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR><B><I>keely
emerinemix </I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Huh.<BR><BR>You
post that you prefer the "class" of bigots to "Latah County trailer <BR>trash"
and yet are surprised at the response? And my observation that with <BR>an
attitude like that, you likely aren't invited out too much qualifies as
<BR>"venom"?<BR><BR>Gee, I'd like to live in your world.<BR><BR>No, pal,
"white trash" isn't OK, either. I may be just a bundle o' <BR>sentiment and
goo here, but people aren't trash. Ever. And whatever <BR>circumstances guide
their housing options -- maybe they have acreage, maybe <BR>they're poor,
maybe they like the cabinetry options in the triple-wide more <BR>than those
in the stick-built -- should not be subject to your withering, <BR>but
cowardly anonymous, judgment. Sorry you had a rough experience renting <BR>in
Moscow, but your attitude suggests you'll have a much more difficult time
<BR>living in Moscow. Or anywhere else, for that
matter.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR>From: Pennsylvania Place <PENN_PLACE_BOISE
@yahoo.com=""><BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Getting a.....<BR>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:52:58 -0700 (PDT)<BR><BR>Wow, I
should have remained a lurker. I've seen some of the venom on 20/20, <BR>and
didn't think my comments would provoke such nastiness.<BR><BR>Ok, I did not
mean to denigrate anyone living in a trailer. I should have <BR>said "white
trash." Are there no terms of insult left?<BR><BR>The point I was trying to
make... poorly... is that many people come to <BR>Moscow from different parts
of the state and the country, and although I <BR>love local earth-friendly
businesses like the Co-Op and Paradise Creek <BR>Bicycles and One World Cafe,
I feel that the arrival of snobby Kirker <BR>merchants has helped raise the
bar for Moscow.<BR><BR>I am not saying I approve of Pastor Wilson or his
philosophy - but I do <BR>think that a) Bucer's helped wake some Muscovites up
to the fact that <BR>businesses like Cafe Spudnik and the coffee place that
was where Papa John's <BR>now is filled a vital role, and that residents NEED
cool cafes and hangouts <BR>downtown; and b) I'd rather have NSA located
downtown than the empty GTE <BR>building.<BR><BR>Do I like the NSA/Kirker
thing? No. But at least they have class, and <BR>they seem to have provoked
the community in a positive direction. I grew up <BR>in Southern Idaho, and
the Kirkers are far less offensive to me than the <BR>Mormons that controlled
my hometown - at least the Kirkers drink alcohol and <BR>enjoy wild sex (at
least if some of their blogs are to be believed).<BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>keely
emerinemix <KJAJMIX1 @msn.com="">wrote:<BR>OK, Penn, you deserve a double shot
of my ire.<BR><BR>"Trailer trash"? Is that the way you see your community --
your neighbors<BR>are either "bigots" with nice stores, or "Latah County
trailer trash"?<BR>Really? Is there something about living in a modular or
mobile home that<BR>makes people unworthy of your esteem? And are you so needy
of fab downtown<BR>shopping experiences that you would excuse what you call
bigotry? Are<BR>people so easily categorized? Dismissed?
Embraced?<BR><BR>Might I be correct in guessing that you don't get invited out
much?<BR><BR>Somehow, in the course of two posts, you've managed to show
yourself not to<BR>be one of Moscow's finest citizens, and I can say that no
matter where you<BR>live.<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: Pennsylvania
Place<BR><BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Getting
a.....<BR>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:50:25 -0700 (PDT)<BR><BR>You know, I
understand why people have problems with Kirkers and NSA<BR>folks... I myself
have dealt with a young elitist married couple that could<BR>not have been
more insincere and fake to me and my family dispite our<BR>efforts to be
neighborly.<BR><BR>That said - I really *do* admire how the Kirker/NSA element
is helping to<BR>class up Moscow. I do not patronize their businesses, but it
is nice to have<BR>clean, sharp stores and restaurants on Main Street. Not
everyone in this<BR>town - even young adults - want to shop at the stupid mall
or college<BR>student holes like the Pita Pit or Papa Johns.<BR><BR>I'll take
elitist snobs over Latah County trailer trash any day of the<BR>week, even if
they are bigots. At least their stores are nice. They
have<BR>good<BR><BR>Penny<BR><BR>David wrote: Ooooohhhhh, creepy again. BTW
JFord, did you get a good,<BR>comprehensive list<BR>of everyone who's been to
West of Paris?<BR><BR><BR>>From: "J Ford"<BR><BR>>To:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>Subject: [Vision2020] Getting a.....<BR>>Date:
Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:29:31 -0700<BR>><BR>>A. You, Doug F, do NOT have a
license to do construction work, electrical<BR>>work, engineering
work...basically you have a license to drive and I<BR>>seriously question
the wisdom of providing you that.<BR>><BR>>B. You are listed as having a
"legit" business which the Moscow Chamber of<BR>>Commerce says they "highly
recommend" and are "proud to (have) as a member<BR>>of the Moscow Chamber
of Commerce" because you provide "quality services<BR>>and products." The
State of Idaho thought that was interesting since you<BR>>licenses expired
in 2005 and they have NO new application for you on
file<BR>-<BR>>ever.<BR>><BR>>C. Your contracting license (20186)
expired on 7-31-2005 and your<BR>>Journeyman's license (19675) expired on
31 Aug 2005. So you saying you<BR>>have done "demolition work for Mike
Hoffman" and you doing any kind of<BR>>electrical work and having your
picture on web sites SHOWING you doing any<BR>>kind of electrical work is
just wrong. As is having your name listed in<BR>>the Chamber of Commerce's
MOST recent listing of businesses and your name<BR>>being WILLINGLY listed
on a permit for electrical work on Mike Hoffman's<BR>>yet to be purchased
building on Main street is just wrong.<BR>><BR>>See:
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/213_Main_Elec_App.htm
and<BR>>http://www.moscowchamber.com/Pages/ChamberMembers.asp?Letter=H<BR>><BR>>So
maybe your "getting a life" is the wrong thing to say....mayhap
people<BR>>should be saying "get a lawyer". For someone that espouses to be
Christian<BR>>and a follower of Christ's to be doing such obviously illegal
things<BR>should<BR>>be seeking the advice of a pastor. Too bad your church
doesnae have one<BR>>you could turn to in such times.<BR>><BR>>Oh,
and if you think Paul Kimmell taking your name down off the MCC
web<BR>>site is going to help your case - it won't. Just like having your
picture<BR>>taken off the other web site didnae help you...copies are
easily made.<BR>>Just like your e-mails where you "confess" to be doing
this type of work.<BR>><BR>><BR>>J
:]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>>From: "Tom
Hansen"<BR>>>To: , , ,<BR>>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
an apology<BR>>>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:03:25
-0700<BR>>><BR>>>Good, NC -<BR>>><BR>>>Glad to hear
you have a life. Be gentle with it, though. Or else,<BR>>>"Comb-Over"
will want it back.<BR>>><BR>>>Tommy Hansen<BR>>>Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>><BR>>>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with
the intention of arriving<BR>>>safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in<BR>>>sideways, chocolate in one
hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly<BR>>>used<BR>>>up,
totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a
ride!'"<BR>>><BR>>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>>From:
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<BR>[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>>>On
Behalf Of heirdoug@netscape.net<BR>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006
11:14 AM<BR>>>To: idahotom@hotmail.com; heirdoug@netscape.net;
kjajmix1@msn.com;<BR>>>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] an apology<BR>>><BR>>>Tommy,<BR>>><BR>>>I
got one! I also have a
life!<BR>>><BR>>>Doug!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>>From: idahotom@hotmail.com<BR>>>To:
heirdoug@netscape.net; kjajmix1@msn.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>>Sent: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 5:46
AM<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] an
apology<BR>>><BR>>>Lemon-O "No Clue" Farris
-<BR>>><BR>>>You really ought to get a day
job.<BR>>><BR>>>Now, off with you to the sand box. Your buddies ,
Arnold and dick<BR>>>Sherwin, await you. You boys can play "Show and
Tell" or you could<BR>>>discuss knocking "heads" off while you extend
something. You know. We<BR>>>really should put that "Adults Only" sign
back up.<BR>>><BR>>>Question, though, NC - Exactly what do you do
at Heirloom Electric?<BR>>>Nothing that requires a license I
hope?<BR>>><BR>>>Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>>
>From: heirdoug@netscape.net >To:
kjajmix1@msn.com,<BR>vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>> >Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] an apology >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:31:16<BR>>>-0400
> >Keely, > >I do have one question with regard to the apology
you<BR>>>are giving to<BR>>>all >of the fine folks here. >
>Am I supposed to extend forgiveness to<BR>you<BR>>>for biting my
head off or >for you getting caught biting my head off or<BR>>>for
you biting my head<BR>>>off >without cause knowing that there may be
a cause later on? Let me<BR>know<BR>>> >and I will gladly extend it.
>
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